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#15 : October 18, 2006, 09:27:51 AM

Yeah we have salary cap issues, and booger can rush the passer and shut down the run, hilarious!



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#16 : October 18, 2006, 09:28:51 AM

A second round pick is easily an impact player on your team, but I don't think it's all about next year. It's about the future. That second round pick might sit the bench for a year before he starts, but he's more than likely going to start on down the road. McFarland, if he does have solid production in Indy, he's still a vet. He's still been in the league awhile. The second round pick's a rookie. He's got his whole career in front of him.

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#17 : October 18, 2006, 09:31:22 AM

it's the ole saying ... one man's trash is another man's treasure.

can't wait to see what we get with that 2nd rounder.  We can waste the pick on a kicker and still get the better end of the deal.  With all the defensive players in this years draft, it's a pretty good chance we'll end up with an impact player.


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#18 : October 18, 2006, 09:32:42 AM

I just went and blasted some guys on another Colts board on this topic.  Where did this whole "run stuffer" label come from?  Had to be Bruce Allen!   ;D

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#19 : October 18, 2006, 09:38:01 AM

I think he could really help Indy. Getting a second rounder, even a really late one is probably a good deal for the bucs as well.

Isn't this the usual patern for Dungy? Get close, get to the point were you should have gotten over, don't get the job done, panic, start mortaging the future. Actually knowing this we should have gotten their first round pick.

Heh, for real.  As happy as I am with this trade, look at it this way.  We gave up a second to put us in position to draft Kenyatta when we thought he would be the player to put us over the top.  So really, we've been there too.

Is it wrong of me to hope that Booger adds as much to Indy as Kenyatta added to our team?

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#20 : October 18, 2006, 09:42:16 AM

Heh, for real.  As happy as I am with this trade, look at it this way.  We gave up a second to put us in position to draft Kenyatta when we thought he would be the player to put us over the top.  So really, we've been there too.

Is it wrong of me to hope that Booger adds as much to Indy as Kenyatta added to our team?

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You Say "WE" but that was on Dungy's watch which is what I was getting at.  Two first rounders for Key,  the extra pick to move up for Yatta. And it seems to me I'm forgetting at least one more.

Of course then in a some what Ironic twist  we, the Glaizers, traded four picks for the guy who actually did get the team over.


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#21 : October 18, 2006, 09:50:41 AM

The Indianapolis Colts successfully negotiated a smart trade with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that will help them resolve their biggest weakness this season -- their inability to stop the run.

ColtPower has learned through one of our NFL sources that the Buccaneers had hoped to get a first-round pick for McFarland, a 6-foot tall, 300-pound defensive tackle who has shown a knack for getting into the opponents' backfield. But they weren't drawing that much interest to command that price. And while the Colts weren't willing to surrender their first-round pick in the 2007 draft, they were willing to offer up their second-round selection -- knowing that with a 5-0 start under their belt, that pick will likely be a late-round selection. And gaining McFarland's productivity against the run and his experience in Tony Dungy's defense made him a great value in exchange for that pick.

McFarland is currently under contract for two additional years with base salaries of $4.5 million this year, $5.5 million next year, and $6.85 million in 2008. Over his first seven seasons, he has been credited with 292 tackles, 20 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, five recoveries, 1 interception and 6 passes defensed. So far this year, he's made 8 tackles during Tampa Bay's first five games.

A first-round pick by the Buccaneers back in 1999, McFarland has played in five postseason games and started in three. A dominating player with great instincts and quickness, McFarland's biggest nemesis over the past few years has been staying healthy. He missed half of the 2004 season with a torn triceps after missing nine games in the previous two seasons with injuries. Towards the end of 2005 he missed some minimal time with a hamstring problem and a knee strain.

 The Buccaneers increasingly relied on McFarland for his run-stopping prowess and less on his pass rushing ability. That fits the Colts' needs perfectly, so it'll be interesting to see how and where he slides into the rotation along with Montae Reagor and Raheem Brock.

And that's the biggest question now that the deal is done -- whether or not McFarland's addition will encourage the team to go back to last year's defensive line alignment. Early last week, I pointed out in our "Stopping the Run" feature that while the team had many of the same players on the defensive line, they were being challenged in numerous ways by taking on new roles and lining up with different players to their immediate side, which can effect teamwork and timing.

Last year, they used Raheem Brock at left defensive end on likely running plays outside of Corey Simon at left defensive tackle. They inserted Robert Mathis as a pass-rush specialist on obvious passing downs, moving Brock inside to Simon's spot, and primarily used Montae Reagor at right defensive tackle next to defensive end Dwight Freeney.

Over the first five games of this season, Mathis worked as the full-time left defensive end for the first time in his pro career. Brock moved to Reagor's old spot at right defensive tackle and played there full-time, putting him in more passing situations and on that side of the line for the first time next to Freeney. Reagor not only moved to a new position at left defensive tackle, but also had someone new on each side of him with Mathis to his left and Brock to his right instead of his left.

With last year's alignment, the team allowed just 110 yards per game rushing versus 166.8 this season. So it'll be interesting to see if the Colts go back to their old alignment and simply plug McFarland into Simon's old role.

If they do, you could see this run defense improve -- and fast. If they tinker with how to best use McFarland in their new alignment, the results might not be as quick, but they should get there as the group settles in and gains more experience together.

Either way, this was a good day for the Indianapolis Colts and a smart move by the organization.

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I guess this is their version of SR/JF.  Talk about homers!

I can't imagine that we actually asked for a 1st rounder.  How could Allen keep a straight face?

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#22 : October 18, 2006, 09:57:05 AM

It's optimistic fansite writing. I would expect no different.

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#23 : October 18, 2006, 10:11:57 AM


So far this year, he's made 8 tackles during Tampa Bay's first five games

Does that not tip people off in just the slightest?? A "dominant run stuffer and pass rusher" with 8 tackles????

The Dungy 2?!?!?!?!?!?!?! is that supposed to be a joke? HAHAHA

I laughed at that too. The Dungy 2. I believe it's the Tampa 2. And if the label was to be credited to anyone it wouldn't be the Dungy 2, It would be the Kiffen 2.

Are Colts fans really this delusional and stupid?


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#24 : October 18, 2006, 10:15:17 AM

dominating player with 8 tackles in 5 game...hahaha.  Dominating players make 8+ tackles a game.

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#25 : October 18, 2006, 10:25:11 AM

Dungy 2, hmmm is that were you pay 2 much and wait 2 long and wish you could get 2 a superbowl?

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#26 : October 18, 2006, 10:57:34 AM

yes colts fans are delusional i live in indiana and have tried to tell them the bucs killed them in this deal but they wont listen....
what else would you expect from fans who's official slogan is wait till next year.they still wont admit manning is a choker.

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#27 : October 18, 2006, 11:06:53 AM

I went to ColtPower.com, I posted some of their links earlier, and YES, the guys really think they have landed a diamond over there.  The guy is going to be 30 next season, has never amounted to a hill of beans here, never made one Pro Bowl, misses a ton of games to various ailments, and when you mention him, you can't help but bring up GOLF.  Even Allen said it yesterday in the press conference...without saying anything about his football...that should clue them in.  Of course if it doesn't, all you have to do is look at his numbers the last three or four years, or even the last few games this season.  Total non-factor, playing next to one of the leagues premier pass rushers, like he will do in Indy when he suits up next to Freeney.  He is a bust, an overpaid, VERY overrated tackle, who doesn't generate pressure, OR stuff runs.  All he does is think about the dog leg on Hole 13...I am glad he is gone...GOOD RIDDANCE! 

Thank You Indy for GIVING the Bucs your second rounder.  You got heisted.


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#28 : October 18, 2006, 11:11:14 AM

As I read somewhere else, I always thought his last name was "questionable".

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#29 : October 18, 2006, 11:30:12 AM


they still wont admit manning is a choker.

I'd rather have Peyton Manning leading my team than any other QB in this league right now.

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