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#30 : March 02, 2007, 05:43:17 PM

This could be McKay's version of a poison pill, knowing he was going to lose Griffith to the Bucs. This move was to push Griffith out of our market range for a 2nd string run blocking FB.

That doesn't make any sense. He'd be killing his own cap to try and make another team kill their cap? The poison pill works in competing contracts for the SAME player, not for two different players.

McKay would be killing two birds with one stone. He got the player he coveted, by overpaying to intentionally drive up the market price for a position that did not warrant such a big contract and kill a division rival's chances to get Alstott's eventual replacement, which is what Griffith would be. Look at Lo Neal's contract. He's the best FB in the league. Period. His deal is what FBs should be getting. Ovie was coveted by a lot of teams, but $18 million for a FB?! Give me a freaking break.

This is a poison pill, but not like the Minn-Sea variety, but more like the Booger contract.

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#31 : March 02, 2007, 05:45:33 PM

Overrpaid, but hey its Rich Mckay


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#32 : March 02, 2007, 05:46:31 PM

McKay would be killing two birds with one stone. He got the player he coveted, by overpaying to intentionally drive up the market price for a position that did not warrant such a big contract and kill a division rival's chances to get Alstott's eventual replacement, which is what Griffith would be. Look at Lo Neal's contract. He's the best FB in the league. Period. His deal is what FBs should be getting. Ovie was coveted by a lot of teams, but $18 million for a FB?! Give me a freaking break.

This is a poison pill, but not like the Minn-Sea variety, but more like the Booger contract.

If you believe he's thinking this way, then McKay's a total moron, not a clever contract man.

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#33 : March 02, 2007, 05:48:01 PM


That doesn't make any sense. He'd be killing his own cap to try and make another team kill their cap? The poison pill works in competing contracts for the SAME player, not for two different players.

Especially when we've got more room then they do. He can't psuh us around with the Falcons cap room.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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#34 : March 02, 2007, 05:49:18 PM

When? He signed a 3-year, $5.1 million deal. That's $1.7 million a season. Mughelli got 6 years, $18 million.

My bad, I thought he got $5.1m per year, not total.

OK, the market for FB's hasn't gone haywire yet so that deal of Ovie is way out of line for the market.

Thank you, McKay for boosting the asking price for one of the cheapest positions to fill on a team. A position that is dying in the NFL. A $5 million dollar signing bonus for a one dimensional FB?! Ridiculous. This could be McKay's version of a poison pill, knowing he was going to lose Griffith to the Bucs. This move was to push Griffith out of our market range for a 2nd string run blocking FB.

You give him too much credit methinks

oh, and Mike would be the backup if he came here, not the other way around

No, I don't give him enough credit. He's an Ivy League lawyer. Those ambulance chasers have mastered the art of dirty tricks.

Paying Alstott $1.5M to be a backup was an awful move if they were targeting Griffith to be the starter. It would mean, a possible investment of $3M+ for the FB position, but this McKay contract would make that investment even more expensive.

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#35 : March 02, 2007, 05:51:24 PM

Especially when we've got more room then they do. He can't psuh us around with the Falcons cap room.

Exactly. You don't pay twice the market rate for a player because you HOPE a division rival will have to pay even more for another player. It just doesn't work that way.

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#36 : March 02, 2007, 05:52:16 PM

McKay would be killing two birds with one stone. He got the player he coveted, by overpaying to intentionally drive up the market price for a position that did not warrant such a big contract and kill a division rival's chances to get Alstott's eventual replacement, which is what Griffith would be. Look at Lo Neal's contract. He's the best FB in the league. Period. His deal is what FBs should be getting. Ovie was coveted by a lot of teams, but $18 million for a FB?! Give me a freaking break.

This is a poison pill, but not like the Minn-Sea variety, but more like the Booger contract.

If you believe he's thinking this way, then McKay's a total moron, not a clever contract man.
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McKay would be killing two birds with one stone. He got the player he coveted, by overpaying to intentionally drive up the market price for a position that did not warrant such a big contract and kill a division rival's chances to get Alstott's eventual replacement, which is what Griffith would be. Look at Lo Neal's contract. He's the best FB in the league. Period. His deal is what FBs should be getting. Ovie was coveted by a lot of teams, but $18 million for a FB?! Give me a freaking break.

This is a poison pill, but not like the Minn-Sea variety, but more like the Booger contract.

If you believe he's thinking this way, then McKay's a total moron, not a clever contract man.

LOL. I hope his hatred of Gruden finally pushes him over the edge into cap hell. Karma's a b!tch.

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#37 : March 02, 2007, 05:56:09 PM

Especially when we've got more room then they do. He can't psuh us around with the Falcons cap room.

Exactly. You don't pay twice the market rate for a player because you HOPE a division rival will have to pay even more for another player. It just doesn't work that way.

Sure, but what do the Falcons gain by overpaying twice the market rate? Throw out the revenge factor and it's still the biggest head scratcher, if there ever was one. Ovie is good, but he's one dimensional and he's not on Lo Neal's level. This move was so out of left field that all you can do is come up with ulterior motives and conspiracy theories.

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#38 : March 02, 2007, 05:58:39 PM


That doesn't make any sense. He'd be killing his own cap to try and make another team kill their cap? The poison pill works in competing contracts for the SAME player, not for two different players.

Especially when we've got more room then they do. He can't psuh us around with the Falcons cap room.

LOL. McKay's ego is so massive. Maybe he thinks he can:)

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#39 : March 02, 2007, 05:59:09 PM

Sure, but what do the Falcons gain by overpaying twice the market rate? Throw out the revenge factor and it's still the biggest head scratcher, if there ever was one. Ovie is good, but he's one dimensional and he's not on Lo Neal's level. This move was so out of left field that all you can do is come up with ulterior motives and conspiracy theories.

No, not really. It's just another bad McKay contract. And besides, we're making a lot of assumptions here without knowing the details of the deal. As far as we know, the only guaranteed money in the deal is the $5 million signing bonus that is pro-rated over six seasons.

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#40 : March 02, 2007, 06:04:18 PM

"Overpay McKay"

Like the sound of that...

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#41 : March 02, 2007, 06:06:08 PM

Sure, but what do the Falcons gain by overpaying twice the market rate? Throw out the revenge factor and it's still the biggest head scratcher, if there ever was one. Ovie is good, but he's one dimensional and he's not on Lo Neal's level. This move was so out of left field that all you can do is come up with ulterior motives and conspiracy theories.

No, not really. It's just another bad McKay contract. And besides, we're making a lot of assumptions here without knowing the details of the deal. As far as we know, the only guaranteed money in the deal is the $5 million signing bonus that is pro-rated over six seasons.

You're right. It could be one of those McKay contracts with all the money backloaded. I still wouldn't put it past McKay to intentionally drive up the market on the FB position. What good is it to be an a-hole, if you're not having fun? LOL.

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#42 : March 02, 2007, 06:06:54 PM

Just look at all the defensive players they are releasing.  These were the first overpayed vets he signed when he got there.


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#43 : March 02, 2007, 08:51:24 PM

YOu would think the Falcons would use some of that money to build a better OL, IMO, this pick-up was ridiculous money wise.

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#44 : March 02, 2007, 10:04:45 PM

Two words. Stupid money. Jeez McKay. This much money for a blocking FB. It would have been cheaper to keep Griffith, a player who already knows your offensive system.

It looks like they are installing a new offensive system

Could be but it's still stupid money.  
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