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Quote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:55:57 PMQuote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:49:28 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:48:10 PMQuote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:23:20 PMQuote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?UH BECAUSE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS SHOT AND KILLED THERE? I'm certainly not going to try to pretend to understand that situation because I haven't had any friends shot, but I don't think that explains his behavior. He went from attitude problems to "everything is fine!" to attitude problems again. They started when it looked like Denver would be horrible, disappeared during the 6 game win streak, and came back again once they started losing. It might be a factor, but a lot of athletes have friends shot due to the places they hang out(see: strip clubs) and I can't remember any of them trying to leave a team based on such an event.I'm not talking about his attitude problems. You asked, "why does he want out of Denver so badly?" If that doesn't answer your question I don't know what will.And you said "he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and out of Denver," which implies that all of his issues are solely a result of being in Denver. In reply to my post, you claimed that he wouldn't throw any fits or have an attitude problem. I never even mentioned Denver in my original post, you did. So yes, you are indeed talking about his attitude problems.Uh, where did I say "he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and out of Denver?
Quote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:49:28 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:48:10 PMQuote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:23:20 PMQuote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?UH BECAUSE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS SHOT AND KILLED THERE? I'm certainly not going to try to pretend to understand that situation because I haven't had any friends shot, but I don't think that explains his behavior. He went from attitude problems to "everything is fine!" to attitude problems again. They started when it looked like Denver would be horrible, disappeared during the 6 game win streak, and came back again once they started losing. It might be a factor, but a lot of athletes have friends shot due to the places they hang out(see: strip clubs) and I can't remember any of them trying to leave a team based on such an event.I'm not talking about his attitude problems. You asked, "why does he want out of Denver so badly?" If that doesn't answer your question I don't know what will.And you said "he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and out of Denver," which implies that all of his issues are solely a result of being in Denver. In reply to my post, you claimed that he wouldn't throw any fits or have an attitude problem. I never even mentioned Denver in my original post, you did. So yes, you are indeed talking about his attitude problems.
Quote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:48:10 PMQuote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:23:20 PMQuote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?UH BECAUSE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS SHOT AND KILLED THERE? I'm certainly not going to try to pretend to understand that situation because I haven't had any friends shot, but I don't think that explains his behavior. He went from attitude problems to "everything is fine!" to attitude problems again. They started when it looked like Denver would be horrible, disappeared during the 6 game win streak, and came back again once they started losing. It might be a factor, but a lot of athletes have friends shot due to the places they hang out(see: strip clubs) and I can't remember any of them trying to leave a team based on such an event.I'm not talking about his attitude problems. You asked, "why does he want out of Denver so badly?" If that doesn't answer your question I don't know what will.
Quote from: Pirates on March 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:23:20 PMQuote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?UH BECAUSE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS SHOT AND KILLED THERE? I'm certainly not going to try to pretend to understand that situation because I haven't had any friends shot, but I don't think that explains his behavior. He went from attitude problems to "everything is fine!" to attitude problems again. They started when it looked like Denver would be horrible, disappeared during the 6 game win streak, and came back again once they started losing. It might be a factor, but a lot of athletes have friends shot due to the places they hang out(see: strip clubs) and I can't remember any of them trying to leave a team based on such an event.
Quote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 06:23:20 PMQuote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?UH BECAUSE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS SHOT AND KILLED THERE?
Quote from: JoshJohnson11 on March 16, 2010, 05:05:55 PMQuote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.And why does he want to get out of Denver so badly? Unless there's a REALLY good reason, and I haven't heard any, we have to go with the assumption that he's immature and he'll always act like this unless everything goes exactly his way.It's also worth pointing out that he was a trouble maker in Denver...until they started winning. Then he had "matured". Then they started losing, and suddenly he was immature again. You think coming to a rebuilding team with a rookie QB will improve that?
Quote from: nubcake on March 16, 2010, 04:57:12 PMI'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.No he won't he wants out of Denver period that's it he doesn't care where he is as long as he's getting paid and no longer in Denver.
I'd rather not risk missing Suh or even McCoy in order to get a troublemaker who will absolutely HATE being here in return. If we were Super Bowl contenders I'd be all for it, but Marshall will throw at least 2 fits a week here.
Here is BroncoFan's take on this nonsense:http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?s=9d5f4c6a9712a3843a881066df0a975f&t=163980
that would be the worst thing that could ever happen...lemme get this strait???Den gives up1st round pickand MarshallBucs give up1st round pick......? Marshall is worth 8 spots in a draft littered with talent?? and not exactly up front talent, looks like a steep draft...collect draft picks don't give any away..
Still gotta say Nubcake's sig sucks. �Waaay too big. �Slows the screen down.
If you go by the NFL Draft value trade chart, if we traded our #3 pick for Denver's #11 pick and Marshall, the difference in the picks would make Marshall's value equal to the #17 pick in the 1rst round