Report:U.S. Shipping Arms ahead of strike on Iran

[Vatican_Assassin]

Edging ourselves closer and closer to WW3.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3863920,00.html

[Fitz66]

[John Galt?]

any sources besides an Israeli website?

[bucsense]

WW3? With Iran? 

Let's melt that hole......

[Fitz66]

WW3? With Iran? 

Let's melt that hole......

Its not outside the realm of possibility (in the small chance that we do strike), Iran has several powerful backers. 

[Doug09]

I'll believe it when a more reputable news source reports it.

[Vatican_Assassin]

WW3? With Iran?�

Let's melt that hole......

Its not outside the realm of possibility (in the small chance that we do strike), Iran has several powerful backers.�

Exactly right Fitz, they do have some VERY powerful backers, namely Russia and China, that's enough right there. They are the Countries that have alot invested in Iran, do you think they'll just stand on the sidelines? I think not. Russia espescially has been ticked off enough at us when we wanted to put a missile shield in Poland, even so much as threaten with military action, plus that mini war that Russia had with Georgia(not the State). It's really been no secret  with all the media coverage, that we have been itching for the oppurtunity to attack Iran, espescially our boss Israel, mainly. Then the other day General Petraeus comes out and says Iran isn't a concern right now because they're behind schedule on developing a nuclear weapon, now this Report comes out, that kind of set off a red flag for me. Just because it came from a foreign newspaper doesn't mean it's not credible. I don't know how many times I've read a foreign press release report something before we do, then we eventually do report it.

[spartan]

Anybody here seriously think PrezBO would launch a pre-emptive strike?

[Fitz66]

Anybody here seriously think PrezBO would launch a pre-emptive strike?

I'd love to see it just to see a bunch of hippies' heads explode upon heading about it. 

[NovaBuc]

 It's more likely these are destined for Afghanistan, which is right next door to Iran after all..

[Bayfisher]

Iran has good people.  Just because they have strange rulers doesn't mean we should "melt that hole".  The people there like American culture and know their government isn't right.   Too bad they get jailed and killed for disagreeing with it. 

[Vatican_Assassin]

Good point Bayfisher, their are GOOD people in Iran. I saw some video of Iran they were doing a documentary, they were showing many pro-American crowds and even pro-Israel crowds. Many don't seem to know that it's the **CENSORED**e that run their government are the ones that want to wipe Israel off the map and all the non-believers. But many of us either don't know, or don't care. They just have the mentality that we should blow everyone to kingdom come who opposes us and don't care about the consequences. That kind of mentality didn't really start to pick up till after 9/11, That "IMA GONNA KILL ME SOME TERRORIST!". Well if you support it so much than join the armed forces if you think you're so tough. Than of course there's the Iraq war with over 1,000,000+ civilians dead. Oh, but God forbid, we don't want to question and sound too "un-American" just because you're not pro-establishment and don't agree with the decisions that were made in the past so they don't happen again in the future. 

[dbucfan]

"On April 23, 2009 the Associated Press wrote about its tally for how many Iraqi citizens have been killed since the U.S. invasion. Many of the news wire services have regular reports on Iraqi deaths each month. Most use numbers released by the Iraqi government. Agence France Presse for example prints statistics from the Iraqi Defense, Interior, and Health ministries. The Associated Press is one of the few that keeps its own independent count. They have traditionally depended upon those same ministries as sources, but also look at press reports, and hospital records. Recently the Associated Press was given access to new data collected by the Iraqi Health Ministry, and searched through morgue records along with burials at the Shiite cemetery in the holy Shiite city of Najaf. All together the Associated Press estimated that about 110,600 Iraqis have died since the U.S. invasion. It's speculated that the actual number might be 10-20% higher since many deaths were not recorded. The majority of these, 87,215, were killed since 2005. Out of those 59,957 died during the height of the sectarian war from 2006-2007."

[Vatican_Assassin]

Civilian deaths may top 1 million, poll data indicate

A British survey offers the highest estimate to date of nonmilitary fatalities. In Sadr City, a car bombing kills 4.
THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ: ESTIMATE ON NONMILITARY TOLL; U.S. ALLY SLAIN
September 14, 2007|Tina Susman, Times Staff Writer

BAGHDAD — A car bomb blew up in the capital's Shiite Muslim neighborhood of Sadr City on Thursday, killing at least four people, as a new survey suggested that the civilian death toll from the war could be more than 1 million.

The figure from ORB, a British polling agency that has conducted several surveys in Iraq, followed statements this week from the U.S. military defending itself against accusations it was trying to play down Iraqi deaths to make its strategy appear successful.


The military has said civilian deaths from sectarian violence have fallen more than 55% since President Bush sent an additional 28,500 troops to Iraq this year, but it does not provide specific numbers.

According to the ORB poll, a survey of 1,461 adults suggested that the total number slain during more than four years of war was more than 1.2 million.

ORB said it drew its conclusion from responses to the question about those living under one roof: "How many members of your household, if any, have died as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003?"

Based on Iraq's estimated number of households -- 4,050,597 -- it said the 1.2 million figure was reasonable.

There was no way to verify the number, because the government does not provide a full count of civilian deaths. Neither does the U.S. military.

Both, however, say that independent organizations greatly exaggerate estimates of civilian casualties.

ORB said its poll had a margin of error of 2.4%. According to its findings, nearly one in two households in Baghdad had lost at least one member to war- related violence, and 22% of households nationwide had suffered at least one death. It said 48% of the victims were shot to death and 20% died as a result of car bombs, with other explosions and military bombardments blamed for most of the other fatalities.

The survey was conducted last month.

It was the highest estimate given so far of civilian deaths in Iraq. Last year, a study in the medical journal Lancet put the number at 654,965, which Iraq's government has dismissed as "ridiculous."

The car bomb in Sadr City injured at least 10 people and set fire to several shops. Also Thursday, police said they had found the bodies of nine people believed to be victims of sectarian killings across the capital.

In its latest salvo at Iran, the U.S. military accused the Islamic Republic of providing the 240-millimeter rocket that earlier this week slammed into Camp Victory, the sprawling base that houses the U.S. Army headquarters. The attack on the base near Baghdad's airport injured 11 soldiers and killed one "third-country national."

At a news conference, a military spokesman, Army Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner, displayed a chunk of metal that he said had come from the rocket. Asked how he could be sure it was of Iranian origin, Bergner said its color and markings were unique to rockets from Iran.

The United States accuses Iran's Shiite leaders of providing weapons, training and other assistance to Shiite militias fighting U.S. forces in Iraq. Iran denies the accusation.

[Bayfisher]

As long as Ali Khamenei is in power, things will never change in Iran.   He calls the shots and Azzhead(Ahmadinejad) is simply a show puppet.  Religion is the driving factor in Iran along with almost all Middle-Eastern countries.  Iraq will never be a democracy no matter how hard we try.  When we leave they will just revert back to the old ways because of the Sunni and **CENSORED**e.  The whole thing couldn't be more useless.  But, war is big business and someone is making out so I wouldn't count the Iran attack out.  Covert warfare simply isn't profitable enough but still the most effective.