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#30 : March 26, 2010, 10:55:08 AM

it's kind of like having winning seasons, but complaining about losing in the playoffs makes you enlightened while complaining about being 3-13 and a total disaster makes you a frontrunning bandwagon fan ......
Who wants a winning season when you know you are a pretender and that even if you make it your gonna get crushed. This team is moving in a direction to create consistent contending and the ability to challenge for 12 wins and Homefield. The Bucs Defense till the end of 07 was good enough to make the playoffs every year yet we couldn't produce an offensive attack from the genius. Too bad there was nobody waiting in the wings to take over like their used to be.


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#31 : March 26, 2010, 10:56:32 AM

Too bad there was nobody waiting in the wings to take over like their used to be.

Wow, finally an admission that Raheem is a disaster.

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#32 : March 26, 2010, 11:00:08 AM

it's kind of like having winning seasons, but complaining about losing in the playoffs makes you enlightened while complaining about being 3-13 and a total disaster makes you a frontrunning bandwagon fan ......

Who wants a winning season when you know you are a pretender and that even if you make it your gonna get crushed. This team is moving in a direction to create consistent contending and the ability to challenge for 12 wins and Homefield.


yeah, who wants winning seasons ... those things suck.   and you gathered this "moving in a direction ...."  from where?

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#33 : March 26, 2010, 11:00:42 AM

seriously, haven't you contradicted yourself enough ... probably time to move along, nothing to see here

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#34 : March 26, 2010, 11:25:38 AM

it's kind of like having winning seasons, but complaining about losing in the playoffs makes you enlightened while complaining about being 3-13 and a total disaster makes you a frontrunning bandwagon fan ......

Who wants a winning season when you know you are a pretender and that even if you make it your gonna get crushed. This team is moving in a direction to create consistent contending and the ability to challenge for 12 wins and Homefield.


yeah, who wants winning seasons ... those things suck.   and you gathered this "moving in a direction ...."  from where?
People like you who are comfortable and cozy in their blanket of mediocrity winning 7-9 games and being happy you have a pretty faced coach are afraid to take the risks and have the patience necessary to be great. I would trade 8 or 9 wins with crusty vets and no hope for a couple rebuilding years in order to establish a solid talented core again, else your just like the Redskins. Its like the fast food era, you want it now now now and my way, my way, my way or you go wah wah wah.


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#35 : March 26, 2010, 12:36:32 PM

It's called being a sports fan...tell what team doesn't have bad years?? It happens, you don't just stop being a fan...Do i agree with what has gone on NO...BUT I won't stop routing for the players on the field

Again, does being a fan = buying a ticket? I don't buy tickets now - seems silly from all the way over here in dallas - but I watch ever game, follow all the news and seem to care at least some. So am I not a fan because I'm not a ticket-buying fan?

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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#36 : March 26, 2010, 12:44:48 PM

Your Like Polesmoker28. You never add anything of substance or validity to any threads. All you do is dog and whine glazer sucks, glazer sucks and you don't even know what your whining about. LMAO. Tim Brown was right.

Explain to me why people should pay good money to watch a bad team? If fans fill up the stadium for good or ill what exactly is the owner's incentive to put a better product on the field.

It's called being a sports fan...tell what team doesn't have bad years?? It happens, you don't just stop being a fan...Do i agree with what has gone on NO...BUT I won't stop routing for the players on the field

Sorry, but the majority of sports fans don't have the money to watch bad teams in person with the economic situation. I have no clue what reality or country you live in, but it apparently isn't the USA.

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#37 : March 26, 2010, 01:23:29 PM

Jesus, you keyboard warriors disgust me...


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#38 : March 26, 2010, 01:25:51 PM

It's called being a sports fan...tell what team doesn't have bad years?? It happens, you don't just stop being a fan...Do i agree with what has gone on NO...BUT I won't stop routing for the players on the field

Again, does being a fan = buying a ticket? I don't buy tickets now - seems silly from all the way over here in dallas - but I watch ever game, follow all the news and seem to care at least some. So am I not a fan because I'm not a ticket-buying fan?
Ticket buying has nothing to do with it. It's the whiny people that want everything "NOW" and demand that the FO do something just to do it, spend the money just to spend it, or else the owners are cheap and they don't care. case closed, no other possible explanation and any other fact based explanation is dismissed as lies and spin. Those are not fans, those are frontrunners and bandwagoners who don't know what it takes to build a winner and don't want to endure the growth process because they are comfy in their mediocrity.


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#39 : March 26, 2010, 02:24:09 PM

So even though we have had one of the lowest payrolls in the NFL for the last 5 years while having one of the highest tickect prices for the same period, the reason it is because they weren't able to find a FA  or a current player to spend it on. Are you by any chance interested in some Real Estate?

Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?

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#40 : March 26, 2010, 02:37:59 PM

Your Like Polesmoker28. You never add anything of substance or validity to any threads. All you do is dog and whine glazer sucks, glazer sucks and you don't even know what your whining about. LMAO. Tim Brown was right.

Explain to me why people should pay good money to watch a bad team? If fans fill up the stadium for good or ill what exactly is the owner's incentive to put a better product on the field.

It's called being a sports fan...tell what team doesn't have bad years?? It happens, you don't just stop being a fan...Do i agree with what has gone on NO...BUT I won't stop routing for the players on the field

Sorry, but the majority of sports fans don't have the money to watch bad teams in person with the economic situation. I have no clue what reality or country you live in, but it apparently isn't the USA.

No I agree...I am not saying being a fan = buying a ticket...I am talking about these people that say if the Bucs don't do what I want I am no longer a fan...or I don't support them anymore....That's what I was talking about, of course I understand Tampa has 13% unemployment rate

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#41 : March 26, 2010, 02:47:14 PM

This town has always been 90% frontrunners and bandwagoners. They all think they are entitled to win every year and if they aren't out signing every FA then they are cheap? Get over yourself. They are doing this the right way so the Club can compete for a title over a 6-10 year stretch not 1 year shots with crusty old vets who can't win in December.

I have to agree. Tampa Bay is notorious for bandwagon fans. That's why Rays games often averaged somewhere around 15,000 per game, and then all of a sudden once they start winning, suddenly everyone wants to show up come playoff time. Fast forward to late last year, when the Rays are still a darn good team but just slightly outside of the wild card...fans suddenly stop caring again. Maybe if we had sold out some of those games, we would have pulled out a few more wins. Who knows.

Same with the Lightning. A couple bad years and all of a sudden the dome is 50% Capitals fans. But if the new ownership turns the team around, you can bet everyone will be "diehard Lightning fans" again.

I'm still not sold on the Glazers giving a crap, which is why I'm hesitant to buy season tickets, but I'll certainly watch every game we play(including the blackouts next year...justin.tv ftw) and stay a Bucs fan till I die.


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#42 : March 26, 2010, 02:52:26 PM

(Worth noting: If the league-wide salary cap were in play, the Bucs reportedly would be more than $75 million under the system's floor. The '09 cap was $129 million and the floor around $108 million.)

Still think the Glazers aren't cheap?

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#43 : March 26, 2010, 03:09:45 PM

it's kind of like having winning seasons, but complaining about losing in the playoffs makes you enlightened while complaining about being 3-13 and a total disaster makes you a frontrunning bandwagon fan ......

Who wants a winning season when you know you are a pretender and that even if you make it your gonna get crushed. This team is moving in a direction to create consistent contending and the ability to challenge for 12 wins and Homefield.


yeah, who wants winning seasons ... those things suck.� �and you gathered this "moving in a direction ...."� from where?
People like you who are comfortable and cozy in their blanket of mediocrity winning 7-9 games and being happy you have a pretty faced coach are afraid to take the risks and have the patience necessary to be great. I would trade 8 or 9 wins with crusty vets and no hope for a couple rebuilding years in order to establish a solid talented core again, else your just like the Redskins. Its like the fast food era, you want it now now now and my way, my way, my way or you go wah wah wah.

You continue to contradict yourself.  Whining about being 9-7, but falling short in the playoffs is a hell of a lot worse than not being willing to settle for a completely unqualified coach being named HC when there are plenty of good candidates available just so the billionaire owners can save some $$$$$ while we the fans continue to shell out good money to watch a joke of a product on the field.

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#44 : March 26, 2010, 04:54:23 PM

Your Like Polesmoker28. You never add anything of substance or validity to any threads. All you do is dog and whine glazer sucks, glazer sucks and you don't even know what your whining about. LMAO. Tim Brown was right.

Explain to me why people should pay good money to watch a bad team? If fans fill up the stadium for good or ill what exactly is the owner's incentive to put  a better product on the field.

because they enjoy football and the Bucs. Im pretty sure the Glazers understand theres a lot more money to be made being a consistent contender or even making it to the SB. you dont think playoff teams get nore money than non playoff teams? you dont think that there is millions to be made by team in the playoffs? season tickets are just a fraction of their profits. actually, most of there profits come from other aspects....mainly revenue sharing from TV contracts. i posted this in another thread, but if you just watch the Bucs, your supporting the glazers pockets just as much, because they make more money off of it.

McDonalds isnt he best place for food, but people still spend money there. maybe we should boycot them until they have better food? im sure it will hurt them too.

if you truly love the Bucs, and have the money, go. if you dont have the money, dont. if your not going to support the players and let them play before empty stadiums because you dislike the owners, well by definition of the word, you are not a fan. if the amount of money in your pocket prohibits you, then no harm, no foul.

some fail to see there is a difference in supporting your team, and lining the glazers pockets. the two dont coincide.



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