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: June 13, 2010, 10:57:15 AM

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/x1172238101/WVU-turns-itself-in-to-NCAA-for-violations

You can thank Michael Rosenberg and Mark Snyder of the Detroit Rag for this one, WVU fans. Michigan and West Virginia are not the only schools that have violated staffing rules.

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#1 : June 13, 2010, 05:44:43 PM

"That's why WVU apparently has self-reported to the NCAA. It seems that two members of the football program that aren't on the coaching staff have indeed been coaching during practices."

I think a fitting punishment would be to take away dessert for one night. 


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#2 : August 05, 2010, 02:38:29 PM

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

It's very similar to what Michigan received, and it occurred under both Rodriguez and Stewart, which seems to indicate a legitimate misunderstanding about the rules. There is no precedent for this to hurt Michigan, but with the NCAA, you never know what will happen. I suspect if the NCAA looked at any big time program, they'd find something similar. Also, from WVU's perspective, Michigan has its hearing next weekend, and the results should be available in October. If the NCAA accepts Michigan's self-imposed sanctions, WVU will have a blueprint to follow for their response.

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#3 : August 05, 2010, 03:15:12 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 


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#4 : August 05, 2010, 03:46:05 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 

No they don't, they are pretty much the same. Michigan has the additional grad assistant mislead investigators. Said grad assistant was immediately let go. WVU has two charges of coach's not promoting an atmosphere of compliance, whereas UM has just one. As I stated before, the UM and WVU NOAs couldn't be more similar.

UM: http://www.vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/NOA_022210_Michigan.pdf
WVU: http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

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#5 : August 05, 2010, 04:09:58 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 

No they don't, they are pretty much the same. Michigan has the additional grad assistant mislead investigators. Said grad assistant was immediately let go. WVU has two charges of coach's not promoting an atmosphere of compliance, whereas UM has just one. As I stated before, the UM and WVU NOAs couldn't be more similar.

UM: http://www.vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/NOA_022210_Michigan.pdf
WVU: http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

Forgot about these
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2010/05/25/Michigan-admits-to-NCAA-violations/UPI-89771274801269/

Like I said, UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't.


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#6 : August 05, 2010, 08:39:08 PM

Uh, you posted Michigan's response to the NCAA, something that WVU will have to do in about 90 days or so. Stewart will have to most likely respond to the specific charges against him. I'm not sure if Rodriguez will need to as well, or if his response in our case will be sufficient. Michigan's response went over and above, and I contend that if they're successful with not getting any punishment added on next week, they will be a good model for WVU's response. The ESPN Big East blogger agrees with me:

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How the NCAA ultimately decides to punish Michigan will give West Virginia a good idea of what to expect from these accusations. If the NCAA accepts the reduced practice time and doesn't go much farther, then that's a good sign. What both schools want to avoid is scholarship cuts or bowl bans.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/10923/ncaa-accuses-west-virginia-of-violations

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#7 : August 05, 2010, 10:43:32 PM

yeah, but those were different violations.  Doesn't the fact that they have a longer "rap sheeet" account for how severe the sanctions are going to be?


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#8 : August 07, 2010, 01:16:37 PM

So 2 guys on WVU's staff, but not the official coaching staff, were on the field doing coach-like stuff.

GEEZ this is huge, bring out the gallows. heads need to roll.[/sarcasm]

Or maybe, the NCAA has waaaaaay too many ridiculous and absurd rules.

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#9 : August 21, 2010, 08:40:51 AM

West Virginia needs to get over the exit of Rodriguez.  Michigan remains in flux since his arrival.   WV is much better off without him. jmo

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#10 : August 05, 2010, 02:38:29 PM

http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

It's very similar to what Michigan received, and it occurred under both Rodriguez and Stewart, which seems to indicate a legitimate misunderstanding about the rules. There is no precedent for this to hurt Michigan, but with the NCAA, you never know what will happen. I suspect if the NCAA looked at any big time program, they'd find something similar. Also, from WVU's perspective, Michigan has its hearing next weekend, and the results should be available in October. If the NCAA accepts Michigan's self-imposed sanctions, WVU will have a blueprint to follow for their response.

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#11 : August 05, 2010, 03:15:12 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 


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#12 : August 05, 2010, 03:46:05 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 

No they don't, they are pretty much the same. Michigan has the additional grad assistant mislead investigators. Said grad assistant was immediately let go. WVU has two charges of coach's not promoting an atmosphere of compliance, whereas UM has just one. As I stated before, the UM and WVU NOAs couldn't be more similar.

UM: http://www.vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/NOA_022210_Michigan.pdf
WVU: http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

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#13 : August 05, 2010, 04:09:58 PM

This is Page 4 "news." No way WVU follows UM's self-imposed sanctions.  UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't. 

No they don't, they are pretty much the same. Michigan has the additional grad assistant mislead investigators. Said grad assistant was immediately let go. WVU has two charges of coach's not promoting an atmosphere of compliance, whereas UM has just one. As I stated before, the UM and WVU NOAs couldn't be more similar.

UM: http://www.vpcomm.umich.edu/pa/key/documents/NOA_022210_Michigan.pdf
WVU: http://www.msnsportsnet.com/content/allegations8510.pdf

Forgot about these
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2010/05/25/Michigan-admits-to-NCAA-violations/UPI-89771274801269/

Like I said, UM has other violations to make up for, WV doesn't.


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#14 : August 05, 2010, 08:39:08 PM

Uh, you posted Michigan's response to the NCAA, something that WVU will have to do in about 90 days or so. Stewart will have to most likely respond to the specific charges against him. I'm not sure if Rodriguez will need to as well, or if his response in our case will be sufficient. Michigan's response went over and above, and I contend that if they're successful with not getting any punishment added on next week, they will be a good model for WVU's response. The ESPN Big East blogger agrees with me:

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How the NCAA ultimately decides to punish Michigan will give West Virginia a good idea of what to expect from these accusations. If the NCAA accepts the reduced practice time and doesn't go much farther, then that's a good sign. What both schools want to avoid is scholarship cuts or bowl bans.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/10923/ncaa-accuses-west-virginia-of-violations
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