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#75 : July 08, 2010, 06:05:33 PM

Have the Jets really tossed around that much money? Yes, they just committed a ton to Ferguson...

According to my math, "committing a ton of money" + a lot of "pretty payroll neutral" contracts still = a ton of money.

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#76 : July 08, 2010, 06:06:52 PM

Have the Jets really tossed around that much money? Yes, they just committed a ton to Ferguson, but they only gave Tomlinson Derrick Ward-esque money and while they traded for Cromartie and Holmes, neither got contract extensions. Cromartie is only making $1 million for 2010 and Holmes $630,00. The Jets have been pretty payroll neutral. Ferguson got money vacated by Faneca, Tomlinson got Jones' money, and Cromartie got Lito Sheppard's money.

And lets keep in mind the guy that they paid is a guy they drafted with the 4th overall pick. You take care of the players you drafted who are worth extending, something that we just dont have.

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#77 : July 08, 2010, 07:34:40 PM

What the hell do you guys expect Penn to do? One of the worst left tackles in football is going to sit out the season? C

One of the worst LTs? LOL.

How many more statistical reports and how many more times do you need to see this guy play before you realize this? Penn is average with his only value being that hes the best of a pathetic group of offensive tackles. Being the only guy capable of holding down the LT position is not a reason to lock that player up. He needs to prove hes worth it or he is going to get replaced. I'm starting to think he is going to get replaced after this season, either by a premium draft pick or free agent, most likely a draft pick.

You should stay out of this debate if you seriously think he is one of the worst LTs in football.

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#78 : July 08, 2010, 08:43:57 PM

I don't think it's quite constructive to rate Penn among the 32 left tackles in the league because there has been a tremendous amount of turnover at the position in the last few years and we just don't know much about a lot of the new players. This year there are going to be 9 left tackles who have started fewer than 32 games (Michael Oher, Eugene Monroe, whoever starts for Buffalo, Chris Williams, Sam Baker, Jermon Bushrod, Trent Williams, Russell Okung, and Jason Smith). It's also not really worth comparing Penn to old timers like Chad Clifton who have already had their replacements drafted. I think Penn's peer group are the players 30 or under who have started at least 32 games: David Diehl, Alex Barron, Joe Staley, Bryant McKinnie, Jordan Gross, Jason Peters, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Marcus McNeill, Andrew Whitworth, Joe Thomas, Max Starks, Charlie Johnson, Michael Roos, Jake Long, Ryan Clady). So he's got 15 other players in his peer group.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#79 : July 08, 2010, 10:20:06 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

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D'Brickashaw Ferguson-T- Jets   Jul. 8 - 10:02 pm et
   
      
Jets LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson's reported six-year, $60 million extension only guarantees him one year and $5.3225 million, according to Profootballtalk.com's Mike Florio.
The rest of the contract doesn't become guaranteed unless Ferguson plays effectively and without serious injury in 2010. Ferguson's base salaries for 2011 and beyond are guaranteed only for skill -- not for injury. He will be guaranteed $22 million if he avoids injury in 2010 and 2011, but the real contract numbers aren't close to what was initially reported.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

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