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#15 : July 24, 2010, 08:10:01 PM

Gruden was a good coach but he hardly had much talent around him. He needs some talented veterans around him to make his system work. It was too complicated for the rooks and 2nd-3rd year guys.

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#16 : July 24, 2010, 10:10:20 PM

I was happy to see Gruden arrive and just as happy to see him leave. Talent selection was not a strong point of the McKay/Gruden/Allen collaboration. Gruden couldn't find a QB to save his ass. It's that simple. Dom/Morris found one with their first pick in their first draft, and appear to have a much better grasp on team needs. I like the new approach much better than dealing with rejects and retreads every year.

I rooted for Dungy as a Buc. I rooted for Gruden as a Buc. I will root for Morris as long as he is here. I like the man and consider him to be exactly what this team needs. From all appearances the players and staff love the guy, and will give it their best effort (except for Penn). It is a very positive situation now, and that's been lacking since 2002. The Bucs are not a serious contender to even reach the playoffs, but I expect great strides to be made this year. It might be the last time the Bucs sail under the radar for many years. JMO

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#17 : July 24, 2010, 10:25:38 PM

1. If the Glaciers' money is tied up in ManUKickballClub until 2015-17, then don't expect any "spending" to take place until...??
2. To "give" Freeman a ThumbsUp rating seems to be quite premature.

I was happy to see Gruden arrive and just as happy to see him leave. Talent selection was not a strong point of the McKay/Gruden/Allen collaboration. Gruden couldn't find a QB to save his butt. It's that simple. Dom/Morris found one with their first pick in their first draft, and appear to have a much better grasp on team needs. I like the new approach much better than dealing with rejects and retreads every year.

I rooted for Dungy as a Buc. I rooted for Gruden as a Buc. I will root for Morris as long as he is here. I like the man and consider him to be exactly what this team needs. From all appearances the players and staff love the guy, and will give it their best effort (except for Penn). It is a very positive situation now, and that's been lacking since 2002. The Bucs are not a serious contender to even reach the playoffs, but I expect great strides to be made this year. It might be the last time the Bucs sail under the radar for many years. JMO


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#18 : July 24, 2010, 10:30:02 PM

People like JDouble and Doug09 shouldn't even be allowed to comment on Gruden since they were still wearing their Power Ranger pajamas when Gruden was winning the superbowl.

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#19 : July 24, 2010, 11:03:13 PM

Yeah Gruden is a good coach. But he would have never drafted a Franchise QB. We would still have Garcia if he was here. Gruden and Allen cant draft worth damn.  And if we did make the playoffs in 08, guess what the result would have been, another first round exit.

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#20 : July 24, 2010, 11:04:44 PM

And if we did make the playoffs in 08, guess what the result would have been

Had Kiffin not announced he was leaving?   Superbowl champions.

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#21 : July 24, 2010, 11:04:54 PM

Morris and Dom have brought in more talent in 2 years, then Gruden did in 7!!!!!!!!

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#22 : July 24, 2010, 11:07:04 PM

Morris and Dom have brought in more talent in 2 years, then Gruden did in 7!!!!!!!!

Then they still can't go .500.   

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#23 : July 24, 2010, 11:07:31 PM

I loved Grudens passion but it wasnt good enough

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#24 : July 24, 2010, 11:09:26 PM

I loved Grudens passion but it wasnt good enough


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#25 : July 24, 2010, 11:09:59 PM

Morris and Dom have brought in more talent in 2 years, then Gruden did in 7!!!!!!!!

They they still can't go .500.  
we will see this year

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#26 : July 24, 2010, 11:10:14 PM

Morris and Dom have brought in more talent in 2 years, then Gruden did in 7!!!!!!!!

Wake me up when Morris wins the Super Bowl...

No scratch that... Wake me up when Morris goes .500. I know it will be awhile.

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#27 : July 24, 2010, 11:11:23 PM

I loved Grudens passion but it wasnt good enough


Alright you got me on that one but I'm talkin bout the last few years he was here.

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#28 : July 24, 2010, 11:13:48 PM

I forget, how many superbowls did Bill Cowher win at Pittsburgh during his entire tenure with the team?


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#29 : July 24, 2010, 11:18:01 PM

You guys may be satisified with one superbowl because that is all we were ever gonna get with Gruds. But I'm not!
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