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« #30 : August 13, 2010, 07:56:41 AM »

Because a cell phone they probably got for free with activation with a bill that's most likely under $100 a month is what's keeping them from affording a house.  ::)
Thats not the point at all.  I don't think $500 is the difference between them owning a house or not either, would you be ok if they went on a weekend vacation before asking tax payers to house them? 


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« #31 : August 13, 2010, 07:59:08 AM »

Cell phone service is cheaper than a landline. I don't consider a cell a luxury anymore.
I need some supporting links for that - there's no way.

And yes, it is a luxury built around convenience. 


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« #32 : August 13, 2010, 09:44:49 AM »

This story reminds me to think of another in its regard.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/ellis1.html

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« #33 : August 13, 2010, 09:45:06 AM »

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The current process is being conducted because, while all housing units are filled, the waiting list is depleted and the current group of applicants will be put on a new waiting list. There are a total of 655 housing spots available -- 200 public housing units and 455 vouchers for rent assistance in private housing. East Point currently has five housing developments, but three of them will be closed or sold.

Lemish said it will likely be six months before any vacancies arise and that people could spend up to 10 years on the waiting list.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #34 : August 13, 2010, 10:00:00 AM »

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Lemish said it will likely be six months before any vacancies arise and that people could spend up to 10 years on the waiting list.

And they will choose to wait before they choose to get their act together. 


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« #35 : August 13, 2010, 10:13:18 AM »

While most of those 30,000 people are never going to enact a lifestyle change and "get their act together", if they did, where does anybody think 30,000 good jobs are going to come from? Atlanta isn't exactly booming right now. There are A LOT of good people with college degrees unemployed or marginally employed right now.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #36 : August 13, 2010, 10:14:54 AM »

Yes Snook, the movie Idiocracy is coming true faster than I thought it would, but it is coming.


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« #37 : August 13, 2010, 10:53:04 AM »

While most of those 30,000 people are never going to enact a lifestyle change and "get their act together", if they did, where does anybody think 30,000 good jobs are going to come from? Atlanta isn't exactly booming right now. There are A LOT of good people with college degrees unemployed or marginally employed right now.

Right now, yeah.  I'm talking about more long-term decision making.

I was unemployed for 4 months but you know what I did? Prepared myself for that situation. 


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« #38 : August 13, 2010, 10:54:56 AM »

you know it was interesting today i was getting gas at the local station and a bunch of young guys about my age or a little older (I'm 23) came in. They were clearly in the construction business and were almost certainly guys with nothing more than a high school diploma. They can't be making more than 15 dollars an hour and that is probably way too high. well as i'm in line to pay for my gas each guy walks up with 2 or 3 large energy drinks, 2 gatorades that looked like some new fancy overhyped brand, and some candy bars. Each guy in front of me rung up over 10 dollars worth of stuff.

Think about that. One hour of their labor eaten up after taxes for some drinks and candy bars. Oh and then i walk out to my 98 camry (i could buy another car but i'm saving up money in a car fund right now so i can pay cash in a year) and see them get into 2 very new looking pickup trucks.

whatever happened to people learning to save some of their money and not spend all of their available income on things that are going to be immediately consumed (i.e. spending 10 dollars every afternoon on drinks and candy bars) and "assets" that lose most of their value within 5 years. there is no way those guys can afford the vehicles they are driving. they are indicative of our societal problems. we consume and consume with little to no savings and then we have to have the gov't or charity bail us out in our old age because we never planned for retirement (most articles i've read recently say that less than 1/2 of all Americans have more than 20k in savings)

So in a thread where those expecting government handouts are being lambasted ... some deserved, some not ... you go after a bunch of employed young people just because they aren't adhering to your economy killing lifestyle. Just when you think you've seen it all on this board.  :-

First of all, as has been pointed out, you don't know what those guys could or couldn't afford. You just made a lot of assumptions based on your superficial observations ... and they call the left "elitists".   ;)


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« #39 : August 13, 2010, 11:04:12 AM »

I know this is hard to accept, but most people like to enjoy their lives while they are young. >.>  Saving money for the future is important, but at the same time don't be afraid to spend some money as a youth.  In the end you are not taking that money on our way to dirt naps.  o.O

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« #40 : August 13, 2010, 11:37:51 AM »

In the end you are not taking that money on our way to dirt naps. o.O

sincerely signed, the socialist sage known as All_da_way

And according to Marx and Engels you also can't leave it to your family.

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« #41 : August 13, 2010, 12:55:19 PM »

What if the government cut off those services because it could no longer afford it (which it can't anyways)?

What would these people do? Shrivel up and die? Or would their survival instinct kick in and would they do something about their situation?

I agree with you man, but sadly enough, THESE people would become full fledged criminals, robbing and stealing their way through life...

They have been given things for so long they know no other way to live other than to take what they want or have it given to them.

I'm sick of paying other people's ways, it's time to stop, regardless of the outcome.


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« #42 : August 13, 2010, 01:05:23 PM »

Neuter them to prevent the spread of stupidity.


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« #43 : August 13, 2010, 02:34:34 PM »

Neuter them to prevent the spread of stupidity.

Neuter who?

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« #44 : August 13, 2010, 03:05:56 PM »

Neuter them to prevent the spread of stupidity.

How very George Bernard Shaw of you.

"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself."

You have just crossed over into the Fabian Socialist zone.

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