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#510 : August 25, 2010, 11:32:46 AM

No, I just look at all sides of an issue rather than the most obvious, jingoistic, xenophobic one.

Oh, please, if that were the case then this issue would include being against all mosques and all muslims, which it is not.

I do like the big words though, however,  I would would classify myself more of a jingleistic and xylophonic individual.

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#511 : August 25, 2010, 11:47:18 AM

FOX News, for one.

I just find it easier to believe that their reasons for building there are economic and practical than assigning some sinister ulterior motive or even just "Boy are we gonna show these heathens by building right next to Ground Zero!" Because look what good that's done them so far if that's the case.

You are going to have to proove this one.

What, I have to prove there's no malicious intent, but you don't have to prove there is?  Typical.

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#512 : August 25, 2010, 11:52:09 AM

FOX News, for one.

I just find it easier to believe that their reasons for building there are economic and practical than assigning some sinister ulterior motive or even just "Boy are we gonna show these heathens by building right next to Ground Zero!" Because look what good that's done them so far if that's the case.

You are going to have to proove this one.

What, I have to prove there's no malicious intent, but you don't have to prove there is?  Typical.

How about you proving that Fox News said what you claimed.  I'd like to see it.


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#513 : August 25, 2010, 12:01:48 PM

FOX News, for one.

I just find it easier to believe that their reasons for building there are economic and practical than assigning some sinister ulterior motive or even just "Boy are we gonna show these heathens by building right next to Ground Zero!" Because look what good that's done them so far if that's the case.

You are going to have to proove this one.

What, I have to prove there's no malicious intent, but you don't have to prove there is? Typical.

No, proove Fox News said that.

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#514 : August 25, 2010, 03:34:03 PM

I think that was an inaccurate attribution....

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#515 : August 25, 2010, 04:09:37 PM

I think that was an inaccurate attribution....

You gotta be able to back statements like that up or don't even bother .... makes us look bad.  ::)

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#516 : August 25, 2010, 04:36:16 PM

Inaccuracies are harder to verify - proving negatives and all that ;)

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#517 : August 25, 2010, 05:19:18 PM

Inaccuracies are harder to verify - proving negatives and all that ;)

I was talking about the FoxNews attribution, not your statement ... When I went back and read that, I realized that may not have been real clear.

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#518 : August 25, 2010, 07:25:55 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38852372/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

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#519 : August 25, 2010, 10:35:18 PM

We also have a "Constitution" that says it's just fine.


Don't recall anybody saying they don't have a Constitutional (or legal right for that matter) right to do this. I do recall people saying that it is tasteless and insensitive though. Kinda changes the discussion when you actually listen to both sides of the argument.

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#520 : August 26, 2010, 08:19:56 AM

That comment was in response to the one above it. I didn't quote it in my follow up.

Would you mind pointing out the section of the Constitution that deals with tastelessness and insensitivity? Your feelings do not constitute a valid reason for them not to build there.




 

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#521 : August 27, 2010, 03:11:32 PM

That comment was in response to the one above it. I didn't quote it in my follow up.

Would you mind pointing out the section of the Constitution that deals with tastelessness and insensitivity? Your feelings do not constitute a valid reason for them not to build there.


Course they do. They do not constitute a legal reason to prevent them from building it, but if the prime intent is to make friends and influence people as they, taking peoples feelings into consideration and not pissing them off would be a good start don't you think?

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#522 : August 27, 2010, 03:49:46 PM

That comment was in response to the one above it. I didn't quote it in my follow up.

Would you mind pointing out the section of the Constitution that deals with tastelessness and insensitivity? Your feelings do not constitute a valid reason for them not to build there.

 


Using this logic then, shouldn't all Hate crime legislation be unConstitutional.

`Sec. 249. Hate crime acts

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`(1) OFFENSES INVOLVING ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN

Perceived definition:

1. To obtain knowledge of through the senses; to receive impressions from by means of the bodily organs; to take cognizance of the existence, character, or identity of, by means of the senses; to see, hear, or feel; as, to perceive a distant ship; to perceive a discord. --Reid. [1913 Webster

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#523 : August 27, 2010, 04:06:52 PM

That comment was in response to the one above it. I didn't quote it in my follow up.

Would you mind pointing out the section of the Constitution that deals with tastelessness and insensitivity? Your feelings do not constitute a valid reason for them not to build there.


Course they do. They do not constitute a legal reason to prevent them from building it, but if the prime intent is to make friends and influence people as they, taking peoples feelings into consideration and not pissing them off would be a good start don't you think?

I doubt there's anything Muslims could do to make you, or others opposed to their new building, like them better.

Do you care whether you and others are pissing them off?

Quit beefing about the past and start hoping for the future

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#524 : August 27, 2010, 04:10:42 PM

That comment was in response to the one above it. I didn't quote it in my follow up.

Would you mind pointing out the section of the Constitution that deals with tastelessness and insensitivity? Your feelings do not constitute a valid reason for them not to build there.

 


Using this logic then, shouldn't all Hate crime legislation be unConstitutional.

`Sec. 249. Hate crime acts

`(a) In General-

`(1) OFFENSES INVOLVING ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN

Perceived definition:

1. To obtain knowledge of through the senses; to receive impressions from by means of the bodily organs; to take cognizance of the existence, character, or identity of, by means of the senses; to see, hear, or feel; as, to perceive a distant ship; to perceive a discord. --Reid. [1913 Webster

When you take over the world you can change it. Until then, don't commit hate crimes.

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