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#15 : August 17, 2010, 07:11:21 PM

I really dont have a problem with Tony expressing his views if he was specifically asked this question. You cant really tell the way the article is written. I feel like a good portion of the time athletes or sports figures say something that gets people fired up its because they were asked a specific question. Then fans who take offense wonder why that person is spouting their mouth off about it to begin with.

He was. Patrick asked him, he didn't bring it up on his own.

I agree with Dungy to some extent. I wouldn't hire Ryan either...not so much regarding the F-words, but moreso his loudmouth attitude. I feel like that's something that can get a team motivated really quick, but I don't think it's beneficial for long term success. Gruden, for example, rubbed a lot of players wrong over time, and Ryan is an extreme version of him. His constant yapping also created this whole Revis issue as well.

I don't agree with Dungy that Goodell should do something about it, though. Hard Knocks isn't on basic cable, thus it isn't for young people. So unless he starts spewing F-words in live interviews, he can do what he wants. Still, it certainly doesn't change my level of respect for Dungy. It's his opinion and it's not like he's going around forcing it down everyone's throat, he was asked the question.


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#16 : August 17, 2010, 07:18:03 PM

I really dont have a problem with Tony expressing if he was specifically asked this question. You cant really tell the way the article is written. I feel like a good portion of the time athletes or sports figures say something that gets people fired up its because they were asked a specific question. Then fans who take offense wonder why that person is spouting their mouth off about it to begin with.
I was thinking about this too. Since that's what happened, then Dungy has every right to give his opinion. But to take it to the point where he said he will discuss it with the commissioner to get Ryan to tone it down is going too far. They're all adults, the culture is what it is and usually has some salty language in it. Dungy trying to be the "language compass" is taking things a little too far. I like the man, what he stands for and respect him for what he's done, but stop trying to push your beliefs and behavior off on others.
This is the same man that stood right next to Vick and mentored him closely saying he deserved another chance. You can forgive what Vick did, but get out the hickory stick for Ryan's profanity and want to wash his mouth out with soap? Doesn't work Tony.


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#17 : August 17, 2010, 07:21:18 PM


He was. Patrick asked him, he didn't bring it up on his own.


he did start the conversation by approaching the commish and the TV Director. he did it on behalf of his religous organization.

"Dungy, a devout Christian who has been a speaker for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, recently called on NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to have a talk with Ryan about his penchant for cursing on the HBO show."


So Pat not did just ask out of the blue he asked in response to Dungy's actions.

Which response do we get this time? Butthurt? Needs medical treatment? Or the all time favorite, \"Drama Queen\"

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#18 : August 17, 2010, 07:23:44 PM


He was. Patrick asked him, he didn't bring it up on his own.


he did start the conversation by approaching the commish and the TV Director. he did it on behalf of his religous organization.

"Dungy, a devout Christian who has been a speaker for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, recently called on NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to have a talk with Ryan about his penchant for cursing on the HBO show."


So Pat not did just ask out of the blue he asked in response to Dungy's actions.

Do we actually know that he called Goodell about it? I know the article says that but it doesn't provide a link and I haven't seen anything that actually indicates he talked to Goodell yet.


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#19 : August 17, 2010, 07:24:15 PM

scroll up for the link, geesch

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#20 : August 17, 2010, 07:29:05 PM

scroll up for the link, geesch

I'm talking about a link to Dungy actually confronting the commissioner. I've already clicked the link you gave to the story that claims he did this, but aside from that NY Daily News article I haven't seen that he has actually talked to Goodell about it yet. He said he wishes Goodell would address it in the interview, but he didn't say he actually talked with him yet.


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#21 : August 17, 2010, 07:36:22 PM

Goodness gracious (Whoops I cursed again I hope Dungy doesn't tell my mommy)

Dude, what is the difference of going to Goodell's office and getting on TV and announcing to the world what Goodell should do? Both ways he is calling the commish to do something. Further he is trying to impose his religious practices of no foul language on the rest of us. Stuff him.

Which response do we get this time? Butthurt? Needs medical treatment? Or the all time favorite, \"Drama Queen\"

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#22 : August 17, 2010, 08:09:51 PM

Note to Dungy, stop being a **CENSORED** cat.

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#23 : August 17, 2010, 08:24:25 PM

I don't see a difference between the word butt and ***. They both mean the same thing yet people give some kind of mystical negative power to the latter. Same goes for all swear words, they're just words that emphasize meaning. If people knew the origins of supposedly safe words like scumbag (used condom) they would blow their gaskets.

I also find it hypocritical that Dungy would play devils advocate for a villain like Mike Vick and a scumbag like Dante Wesley, yet be so up in arms about a coach being passionate. Wesley was a complete thug jacking up Clifton like that last year yet Dungy said he did nothing wrong.

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#24 : August 17, 2010, 08:50:19 PM

I don't see a difference between the word butt and ***. They both mean the same thing yet people give some kind of mystical negative power to the latter. Same goes for all swear words, they're just words that emphasize meaning. If people knew the origins of supposedly safe words like scumbag (used condom) they would blow their gaskets.

I also find it hypocritical that Dungy would play devils advocate for a villain like Mike Vick and a scumbag like Dante Wesley, yet be so up in arms about a coach being passionate. Wesley was a complete thug jacking up Clifton like that last year yet Dungy said he did nothing wrong.

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#25 : August 17, 2010, 08:51:20 PM

Dungy's just jealous that Ryan is a better defensive coach than him.

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#26 : August 17, 2010, 09:51:44 PM

Goodness gracious (Whoops I cursed again I hope Dungy doesn't tell my mommy)

Dude, what is the difference of going to Goodell's office and getting on TV and announcing to the world what Goodell should do? Both ways he is calling the commish to do something. Further he is trying to impose his religious practices of no foul language on the rest of us. Stuff him.


A. It was on the radio, not TV. He also didn't say dogmatically say "this is what Goodell needs to do", he said "this is what I would like him to do."

B. There's a big difference. Simply giving his opinion on what he thinks Goodell should do is quite different from confronting him on it and trying to convince him. Simply expressing your opinion on a subject when asked is not a crime. I don't even agree with Dungy on that part, but it's certainly his right to hold that opinion and by merely expressing it he isn't forcing it on anyone. He isn't "imposing" anything.

I can't help but enjoy seeing you get all whiny and butthurt, expressing your opinion to the extent that you make a fool out of yourself, all because someone expressed their opinion in a much more mature manner. Classic.


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#27 : August 17, 2010, 10:00:00 PM

I agree with Mr. Dungy.  An NFL coach should conduct himself with more professionalism.


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#28 : August 17, 2010, 10:05:13 PM

I would like to ask the commish to call Dungy and tell Tony to back off and mind his own business.  Like another poster mentioned, I'm good with Dungy's Christian beliefs and all, but like so many other religious figures, he is trying to shove it on people.

Tony aint perfect...no how, no way.

I wonder how many times Tony "asked" Warren Sapp to not cuss.



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#29 : August 17, 2010, 10:06:39 PM

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I agree with Mr. Dungy.  An NFL coach should conduct himself with more professionalism.

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