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#30 : August 24, 2010, 08:30:53 AM

Someone help me out with which guys were available who have successfully built teams before? Did we need Mike Holmgren to pay Jake Delhomme $7 million to be our quarterback?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#31 : August 24, 2010, 08:45:10 AM

Great locker room bulletin board material

Agreed...

Oh no,  Now the Bucs will truly be angry and violent.

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#32 : August 24, 2010, 08:59:27 AM

Great locker room bulletin board material

Agreed...

Oh no, Now the Bucs will truly be angry and violent.

A little BB material never hurts...

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#33 : August 24, 2010, 09:09:55 AM

who cares what anyone says before the season? opinions are like ahole's everyone has one...

its preseason people are over reacting... This is a young team.. dont expect a playoff team dont expect 10 wins.. we will be lucky to get 8.... Anything better then 3-13 is a win in my book...


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#34 : August 24, 2010, 09:10:54 AM

Great locker room bulletin board material

Agreed...

I don't think there's any space left on the bulletin board. The Bucs however unwarranted it may or may not be, are not getting much love from the national media.

Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?

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#35 : August 24, 2010, 10:17:20 AM

This is what you get when someone with no knowledge of the team glances over the roster and doesn't see any familiar names.  Not surprising.

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#36 : August 24, 2010, 10:23:53 AM

Young players have never won a championship.

1981 Super Bowl Champion San Francisco 49ers

Offense
Joe Montana (QB) - 25 years old
Ricky Patton (RB) - 27
Freddie Solomon (WR) - 28
Dwight Clark (WR) - 24
Earl Cooper (FB) - 24
Fred Quillan (C) - 25
John Ayers (LG) - 28
Randy Cross (RG) - 27
Keith Fahnhorst (RT) - 29
Dan Au**CENSORED** (LT) - 27

10 of 11 offensive starters under age 30.

Defense
Eric Wright (DB) - 22
Carlton Williamson (DB) - 23
Ronnie Lott (DB) - 22
Dwight Hicks (DB) - 25
Archie Reese (NT) - 25
Jim Stuckey (DE) - 23
Dwaine Board (DE) - 25
Keena Turner (LB) - 23
Dan Bunz (LB) - 26

9 of 11 starters under age 30.

And before you scream "COACH!"... Bill Walsh was going into his third year, having posted an  8-24 record.  He obviously got... better... but I can't imagine what fans were thinking in the 1980 offseason.


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#37 : August 24, 2010, 10:31:48 AM

Well done Blaze


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#38 : August 24, 2010, 10:37:02 AM

1999 Super Bowl Champion St. Louis Rams

QB Kurt Warner 28
RB Marshall Faulk 26 
FB Robert Holcombe 24 
WR Isaac Bruce 27
WR Torry Holt 23 
TE Roland Williams 24 
LT Orlando Pace 24 
LG Tom Nutten 28 
C Mike Gruttadauria 27
RG Adam Timmerman 28 
RT Fred Miller 26
 
LDE Kevin Carter 26
LDT Ray Agnew 32
RDT D'Marco Farr 28
RDE Grant Wistrom 23
LLB Mike Jones 30
MLB London Fletcher 24
RLB Todd F. Collins 29
SS Billy Jenkins 25
FS Keith Lyle 27
LCB Todd Lyght 30
RCB Dexter McCleon 26 

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#39 : August 24, 2010, 10:39:56 AM

Great locker room bulletin board material

Agreed...

I don't think there's any space left on the bulletin board. The Bucs however unwarranted it may or may not be, are not getting much love from the national media.

I'd be interested in more that you have to say......if only for the sig pic.  


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#40 : August 24, 2010, 11:06:59 AM

Young players have never won a championship.

1981 Super Bowl Champion San Francisco 49ers

Offense
Joe Montana (QB) - 25 years old
Ricky Patton (RB) - 27
Freddie Solomon (WR) - 28
Dwight Clark (WR) - 24
Earl Cooper (FB) - 24
Fred Quillan (C) - 25
John Ayers (LG) - 28
Randy Cross (RG) - 27
Keith Fahnhorst (RT) - 29
Dan Au**CENSORED** (LT) - 27

10 of 11 offensive starters under age 30.

Defense
Eric Wright (DB) - 22
Carlton Williamson (DB) - 23
Ronnie Lott (DB) - 22
Dwight Hicks (DB) - 25
Archie Reese (NT) - 25
Jim Stuckey (DE) - 23
Dwaine Board (DE) - 25
Keena Turner (LB) - 23
Dan Bunz (LB) - 26

9 of 11 starters under age 30.

And before you scream "COACH!"... Bill Walsh was going into his third year, having posted an  8-24 record.  He obviously got... better... but I can't imagine what fans were thinking in the 1980 offseason.

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Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#41 : August 24, 2010, 11:40:19 AM

People don't get promotions for doing a lousy job. Raheem Morris was so highly valued by Kiffin that the Bucs brought him back after one outstanding season as a college DC. He was so impressive as a DB coach that it was a given that he would take over for Kiffin whenever he left. Nobody could foresee that Gruden would be fired, but Morris impressed someone enough that he was then hired as the HC. This is a man who had performed beyond expectations for six years in the Buccaneer organization. They knew exactly what they were getting. I like that the majority of his experience is in the NFL with the Bucs. The transition from DBs coach to HC is a little extreme, but I prefer that over a college HC who would be much older and dealing with the NFL for the first time.
The Bucs have had a revolving at HC for most of their history. Morris could coach here for thirty years and still be younger than some HCs that have been in the league. The Bucs have never had a Tom Landry, Don Shula, George Halas, type coach. I'd like to see Raheem Morris have that kind of relationship with the Bucs. He obviously communicates very well with the players, coaches, and FO. Some here like to ridicule him for his dealings with the media. That is absolutely the least important responsibility that he has. The man is honest to a fault and he's direct. He doesn't dance around the truth and he addresses any issues that come up ASAP. I've been watching the NFL since the mid fifties, and I can't recall any other HC with the balls to fire an OC ten days before the start of the season, or relieve a DC of his responsibilities ten weeks into the season. Morris doesn't mess around. He does what he believes is in the best interest of the team, even if it means releasing an NFL legend before he is ready to go. Mister Derrick Brooks would not have made much of a difference last year. Neither would Garcia or Gruden. We probably would have still had a top ten pick. We just wouldn't have most of the players we selected, for sure no McCoy. The Bucs will get better faster because of the tough decisions the new regime has made. I expect we will draft in the low to mid twenties next April. Most our FAs will want to stay on the team. There will be some players who will step up and surprise everyone, so there will be fewer holes to fill.

I like the new approach. This is a team with an eye on the next decade, not just next January. There are some positions that need to be addressed, but there will be more of a focus on depth in the next few years. There will be progress with or without Josh Freeman this season IMO.

My guess is neither Java nor Adam Schein were breast fed as infants.

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#42 : August 24, 2010, 12:14:08 PM

Is this guy's shtick similar to Skip Bayless, where he's paid to say stupid things so people will tune in and yell at him? Because I find it hard to believe that anyone would be dumb enough to complain about Mike Williams of all people.


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#43 : August 25, 2010, 09:25:51 AM

I would be more comfortable with a coach that has built a team before or someone in the front office that has built a team before. Im simply not convinced anyone in this organization has any idea what the hell they are doing.

We dont even have a legitimate back-up QB. If Freeman goes down for the year; if we lose a key defense player; if we lose Winslow or Cadilac to injury or lose a key offensive lineman........we may not win another game all year. That's how many eggs we have in 1 basket. We have absolutely no depth at any position. We got nearly 20 players scheduled to be UFAs at the end of the year.



Our backup QB in 2006 was Bruce Freakin' Gradkowski, who ended up starting most of the season....but wait, that was when we had a coach who had built a team before and someone in the front office who had built a team before. You're right. I would be much more comfortable if we had that again.

Just so you know ( a lot of people tend to forget this ) the Bucs won their division in 2005 and looked good doing it. ( 11-5 ) they just did loose in the playoffs to Washington in a game that Still pisses me off to this day. The refs won that game, not the Skins. There were soo many Bad calls and the Bucs dominated every stat in the game except the score board.  In 2006 the Bucs were planning on having Brian Griese return as the starter with two young QBs with a lot of upside fighting for the back up roll. Griese however shocked everybody and signed with Chicago.-(what, No Money in Tampa?) Luke McCown tore an ACL in preseason and in the third regular season game Chriss Simms ruptured his spleen.. Enter Bruce Gradkawski.  After that people still wondered why Gruden wanted to keep so many QBs on the roster..

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#44 : August 25, 2010, 09:28:25 AM

After that people still wondered why Gruden wanted to keep so many QBs on the roster..


No. They always wondered why he wanted to keep so many BAD QBs on the roster. There's a difference.
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