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ronde bear:

--- Quote from: Ranman on October 21, 2007, 11:29:21 AM ---USC,

The intent was to show how preseason polling is ridiculous.

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I agree. Really look beyond THESE stats and you will see that it is the polling that is overrated, not the teams. FSU was going on a 15 year period where they were top 5 every year. Same coach, mostly the same recruiting, so the preseason polls gave them the benefit of the dou bt more of ten than not. It just shows the problems with preseason polls


If you waited until week 6 to rank teams, this would be a non issue and there would be no speak of these teams being overrated but simply rated accordingly

Feel Real Good:
Fantastic analysis looking beyong the surface of the stats, USC Rules.

USC Rules:

--- Quote from: Ranman on October 21, 2007, 11:29:21 AM ---USC,

The intent was to show how preseason polling is ridiculous.The data should be reviewed by season.   I only put up the past seven years to reflect that there is a small number of teams who have an advantage year in and out with their preseason standings.  That should add fuel to start up's like USF. 

Like all data you can argue either point which was the intent. 
If you are strong SEC you can argue that the B12 is over rated.  If you are a KY fan, you could argue Tenn is over rated.  If you are West coast you could argue the preseason polling of the E. Coast teams. 
Cheers,


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Well really though, you aren't proving Pre-season polling to be ridiculous at all with this.  Looks like 5 of 7 years they pegged Florida fairly good.  I wonder how many years they got the others right? 

There are much better ways to argue pre-season polling to be ridiculous than adding subtracting several years and calling a team overrated because of it.  As I showed with Florida the voters got it right more often than not, just 2 seasons were bad inflating the number.  Over that 7 year period Florida was rated right where they should be 5 of 7 years.  Can't ask or expect much more than that.

redtab78:

--- Quote from: Ranman on October 21, 2007, 11:29:21 AM ---USC,

The intent was to show how preseason polling is ridiculous.The data should be reviewed by season. I only put up the past seven years to reflect that there is a small number of teams who have an advantage year in and out with their preseason standings. That should add fuel to start up's like USF.

Like all data you can argue either point which was the intent.
If you are strong SEC you can argue that the B12 is over rated. If you are a KY fan, you could argue Tenn is over rated. If you are West coast you could argue the preseason polling of the E. Coast teams.
Cheers,


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While I do agree with the pre-season ranking, I think they should hold all rankings untill after the 5th game...

ranman:
USC,

The intent was to show how preseason polling is ridiculous.The data should be reviewed by season.   I only put up the past seven years to reflect that there is a small number of teams who have an advantage year in and out with their preseason standings.  That should add fuel to start up's like USF. 

Like all data you can argue either point which was the intent. 
If you are strong SEC you can argue that the B12 is over rated.  If you are a KY fan, you could argue Tenn is over rated.  If you are West coast you could argue the preseason polling of the E. Coast teams. 
Cheers,

USC Rules:

--- Quote from: Ranman on October 21, 2007, 09:11:53 AM ---This thread merely points out the teams that have been highly rated and where they end up in a given year.  If a pattern is shown then that should reflect historically being overrated. 



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This is simply not true.  As I showed with Florida, they were only "overrated" 2 of these 7 years.  How you can call a team overrated based on that I am not sure. As I said before, 5 of the 7 seasons they were within 6 spots pre/post.  The data is skewed by 2 seasons, that's the bottom line.  This is another example of someone trying to manipulate data to make it appear that something that is not true, is in fact true.  2/7 is not a trend.  Taking 35 spots out of 2 seasons and saying it makes the whole picture true is dishonest. 

ranman:
USC,
The stats were AP pre and post.  We can break it out by year but there always seems to be chatter about the chronic overrated hence the stats for this decade.  You are correct though.  One or two seasons (ZOOK) could skewer the ratings.  Regardless - they are what they are.

BUCFAN4LIFE:
But Ranman it is obviously skewed and it is blanketed as the most overrated teams of the decade. Yet USC's data clearly shows UF was only over- rated  2/7 years. Surely one can't consider 2/7 years a trend. Interesting slant but bogus at best.

redtab78:
I disagree with your Florida overated and I think USC should be up there...Florida won the 2006 BCS championship, how is that over rated?

redtab78:
and I should note, my opinions are based on the confrence strength...pac-10 not much after USC besides Oregon and Cal...but they will always loose 3-4 a year...and SEC is high tempo...Florida, LSU, South Carolina, just to name a few....the SEC is a very tough conference to be in...

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