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: October 06, 2010, 10:22:49 AM

The Bucs have won their last three road games with Freeman and Morris. That is something of an accomolishment for so young a team. Did Gruden ever do that with any QB either here or in Oakland? I really don't know, but I believe it's a good indicator that progress is definitely being made.

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#1 : October 06, 2010, 10:27:00 AM

Gruden took an underachieving team and went 12-4 and won a Super Bowl.  Now that's an achievment.


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#2 : October 06, 2010, 10:32:28 AM

The last time the Bucs won 3 road games in a row was 2005.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#3 : October 06, 2010, 10:32:47 AM

1sparkybuc wrote:
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The Bucs have won their last three road games with Freeman and Morris. That is something of an accomplishment for so young a team. ...I believe it's a good indicator that progress is definitely being made.



With this ^^^ I agree.    "W"s on the road are really hard to come by.

This CIN game is a great indicator of how they are doing on sooooo many levels.

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#4 : October 06, 2010, 10:33:18 AM

Under Gruden.


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#5 : October 06, 2010, 01:13:14 PM

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Under Gruden.


You must really like that position.


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#6 : October 06, 2010, 01:15:07 PM

**CENSORED**-a-matic just cant help it self!


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#7 : October 06, 2010, 01:16:58 PM

Winning three road games in a row is an achievement regardless of whom they played.

\"A Great Coach has to have a Patient Wife, A Loyal Dog, and a Great Quarterback. . . . but not necessarily in that order\" ~ Coach Bud Grant

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#8 : October 06, 2010, 01:22:56 PM

Thank you Garrett Hartley & a seahawk team that quit at the end of the year?



How many times did a Gruden coached team get THEIR BUTTS KICKED at home?
Rah: 5 stompings in 10 home games-- no wonder no one wants to shell out $100 to watch them Live.


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#9 : October 06, 2010, 01:25:33 PM

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Gruden took an underachieving team and went 12-4 and won a Super Bowl.  Now that's an achievment.


An achievement largely dependent on the Defense(ranked #1) he inheirited from Tony Dungy and run by Monte Kiffin. Gruden's offense was 18th in the league.

Granted, there would be no Lombardi trophy in Tampa without Jon Gruden, but he is also responsible for the shipwreck that Raheem Morris inheirited. Dominik and Morris snagged a franchise QB with their very first pick in their very first draft. Gruden/McKay/Allen couldn't do it in 7 years, not even a mediocre run-of-the-mill QB. Rejects and long shots can't get it done. That's why he was fired.

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#10 : October 06, 2010, 01:34:32 PM

1sparkybuc wrote:

Dominik and Morris snagged a first round QB with their first pick in their first draft.[/quote]


fixed it

Jury is in deliberation for the next 3-5 years to see if our first round QB is a "Franchise QB".


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#11 : October 06, 2010, 01:40:42 PM

Um, can we stick to celebrating the Bucs' increasing success on the road and not rehash whether Jon Gruden or Tony Dungy won the Super Bowl in 2003?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#12 : October 06, 2010, 02:20:44 PM

1sparkybuc wrote:
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Raw Is A Buffoon wrote:
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Gruden took an underachieving team and went 12-4 and won a Super Bowl.  Now that's an achievment.


An achievement largely dependent on the Defense(ranked #1) he inheirited from Tony Dungy and run by Monte Kiffin. Gruden's offense was 18th in the league.

Granted, there would be no Lombardi trophy in Tampa without Jon Gruden, but he is also responsible for the shipwreck that Raheem Morris inheirited. Dominik and Morris snagged a franchise QB with their very first pick in their very first draft. Gruden/McKay/Allen couldn't do it in 7 years, not even a mediocre run-of-the-mill QB. Rejects and long shots can't get it done. That's why he was fired.


Largely dependent on defense? are you that dumb? here are some facts that you poster fans should know.

1. Brad Johnson 3rd best  QB in the NFL in 2002 ( #11 in 2001) , the 2 people ranked higher than him in 2002  were Chad Pennington and Rich Gannon ( who happened to be the other QB in superbowl 37 )

2. Brad Johnson #1 Rated QB in the entire NFC in 2002  

3. brad johnson sacked 21 times in 2002, thats 15 times less tha Rich Gannon and the #1 offense in the NFL

4. in 2001 Buccaneers defense ranked 6th, in 2002 Ranked 1st.....hmmmm grudens defense was better than dungy's? how can that be?

5. 2001 Dungy's defense lol, ranked 12th in sacks, under gruden they ranked 6th hmmm

6. 2001 ranked 2nd in int's, in 2002 ranked 1st

every aspect of this team improved with gruden, so tell me how the hell he took us to a SB with Dungy's team when dungy's team was worse on offense and defense? Explain that please, please

Fact is Gruden took this team to the superbowl not Dungy, hell Dungy's so called team never existed, Monte ran the defense from day one, everyone knows that.. Dungy was an offensive HC and he didnt get it done.....Gruden won a SB with Tampa, NOT DUNGY...get over it


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#13 : October 06, 2010, 02:38:49 PM

Brad Johnson was AWESOME at throwing the 3 yard pass.

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#14 : October 06, 2010, 02:47:38 PM

yet he had an average higher than Favre, Brady ( who won the SB the year before ) and  McNabb

oh, Plus he won a superbowl

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