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#30 : October 28, 2010, 12:31:28 PM


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#31 : October 28, 2010, 12:39:24 PM

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How about Koa Misi of the Dolphins ?? He was picked 5 spots behind Price , and he has 4 sacks already...

I would have taken Alex Carrington or Carlos Dunlap before Price also. They could be  beasts one day . Yes, they've done nothing yet at this level , but neither have our guys . At least we'd have someone to develop at a position of need , instead of a career back-up and 3rd down specialist ( which is all Price is ).

So a guy who was only projected to play outside linebacker and a bunch of natural defensive ends who have yet to do anything. Noted.


Who cares if they are yet to do anything ?? Gerald McCoy and Price have yet to do anything . I guess the only guys who it is " too early to call a bust" are Buc players , huh ?? Everyone else in the league we can label away. LOL , Noted.

BTW , you can be undersized and play DE in the Bucs system ( not like stopping the run has EVER concerned our front office ) , and Misi lines up with his hand on the ground like a DE in the 3-4 anways . Misi could project as an end for us at 6'3 265 , and he could outplay Kyle Moore  7 days a week and twice on Sunday , regardless of his size...



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#32 : October 28, 2010, 12:45:38 PM

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PWNSAURUS, I'm not sure why you keep applying the us vs. them mentality. It has nothing to do with Gruden, but rather your negativity. It's this type of thinking that is the reason only 30K show up at games now. It's less about wins and losses and more about self-hatred.
In some ways the worst thing Gruden did was win in his first season. Nothing less than a championship would be good enough after that. To despise the only coach who ever won a title for us is flat out NUTS, cuckoo, loco, a couple cards shy of a full deck!!!
Let it go! The BEST thing you do is root for Raheem and the Bucs NOW. We all need to do that. I love our four wins and hope for many more.
In a way Cyber's post is a big positive. If we can be 4-2 without our top four picks contributing, imagine how good we COULD be if a few of these guys improve as we all anticipate?

I am personally excited for where the Bucs are at and couldn't be happier with the way Morris and Dominick are buildiing this team. My point is that the majority of the people complaining are the ones who were bitter about Gruden getting the boot when it was well deserved. They are the bandwagoners that find it more important to have a coach with a name than a coach who can build a winner. 30K at the games??? Well I have been at every home game supporting my team while others sulk and refuse to enjoy the ride because they won't give Morris a chance. As far as Gruden winning the first year and what happened in the following 6 seasons, the following 6 seasons had more to do with the influence of Gruden than the SB season. I know you prob won't agree but once Gruden did it his way the Bucs never won another playoff game, pretty sad for all the hype. Blame the owners??? Well Gruden didn't give them any talent to resign to big contracts. Did we ever lose a impact FA? No. Do we now have impact players that need to be resigned? Yes we do and the owners will get their chance to shut everyone up. Let me know when we let a real quality players leave over money.

Not really directed at you JBF but all the haters.  :laugh:


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#33 : October 28, 2010, 12:45:47 PM

Should have drafted Russell Okung, Nate Allen, Linval Joseph, and Alterraun Verner.

Probably a poor idea to draft a punter as well.


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#34 : October 28, 2010, 12:47:57 PM

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You consider every player good until proven a bust .

I consider every player a bust until proven good .

Deal with it.



Does this brilliant theory apply to your Man-Crush Sabby?

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#35 : October 28, 2010, 12:51:27 PM

Misi is officially listed as 251 lbs. That's what he weighed at the Combine.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#36 : October 28, 2010, 12:52:45 PM

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You consider every player good until proven a bust .

I consider every player a bust until proven good .

Deal with it.



Does this brilliant theory apply to your Man-Crush Sabby?


LOL I don't have any delusions about Sabby being great . My point has simply always been that he is better than Sean Jones , and he is.


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#37 : October 28, 2010, 12:54:53 PM

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You consider every player good until proven a bust .

I consider every player a bust until proven good .

Deal with it.



Does this brilliant theory apply to your Man-Crush Sabby?


LOL I don't have any delusions about Sabby being great . My point has simply always been that he is better than Sean Jones , and he is.


If we don't sign Sean Jones in FA, we probably address SS in the draft.


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#38 : October 28, 2010, 12:56:37 PM

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Misi is officially listed as 251 lbs. That's what he weighed at the Combine.
Because he dropped weight to play LB ... He could easily bulk up to 265 and play End.


Regardless , my point still stands. If you disagree that any of the Ends were worthy ,fine, select another position of need ( lord knows we had plenty ). Another undertackle was a stupid pick. Period.


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#39 : October 28, 2010, 01:23:37 PM

IMO McCoy was the more questionable pick. Getting a DT with Price's potential in the 2nd was great value. Using the #3 overall pick on a DT where nothing about him said he was going to be an absolute dominator was not great value.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#40 : October 28, 2010, 01:44:50 PM

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IMO McCoy was the more questionable pick. Getting a DT with Price's potential in the 2nd was great value. Using the #3 overall pick on a DT where nothing about him said he was going to be an absolute dominator was not great value.


Well I agree with that. I'd be all in favor of the Price pick if we had went elsewhere with the 3rd overall.


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#41 : October 28, 2010, 03:26:57 PM

this thread is ridiculous imo.  i love the fans who think every draft pick has to be an instant impact performer or he is a bust.

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#42 : October 28, 2010, 05:21:38 PM

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this thread is ridiculous imo.  i love the fans who think every draft pick has to be an instant impact performer or he is a bust.


I don't think that was the premise of this thread . The premise is ; who would have guessed before the season the team would be 4-2 , even though our top draft picks aren't contributing ?


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#43 : October 28, 2010, 05:30:43 PM

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I don't think that was the premise of this thread . The premise is ; who would have guessed before the season the team would be 4-2 , even though our top draft picks aren't contributing ?


i suggest you go back and re-read it.  it clearly is about holding back praise for dominik and stating that the production from our early draft picks is unacceptable.

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#44 : October 28, 2010, 05:43:44 PM

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I don't think that was the premise of this thread . The premise is ; who would have guessed before the season the team would be 4-2 , even though our top draft picks aren't contributing ?


i suggest you go back and re-read it.  it clearly is about holding back praise for dominik and stating that the production from our early draft picks is unacceptable.


Excuse me if I don't cry a river for poor Gerald.

Sorry, but McCoy has 40 million dollars in the bank. With that WILL come critisizim , until you EARN it. That's just how it is.

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