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Monday, December 20, 2010
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Not much to say about the game yesterday.

But I will say this, if the Bucs don't get back to having everyone in their gap on run fits then it won't matter whether you call it Tampa 2.0 or any other nickname you can come up with, it ain't gonna work.

I don't give a damn how many blitzes you call.

Oh and boy did Coach Morris call them.

32 by my unofficial count.

And yet after all that the Bucs still didn't have any sacks, no interceptions, and very few pressures.

If you can't play your base defense eventually its going to come back to haunt you.

It wasn't as if the Lions came in with some kind of exotic blocking scheme. They ran basically what the last few Bucs opponents have run at them, zones, split action bellies and Iso belly cut backs (AKA The Saints' play). And yet the defense still hasn't seemed to fix it.

Every time one of the Bucs defensive ends face a kick out block its a potential for disaster. Either the End doesn't get under the block and the running back runs straight down hill into the secondary, OR the defensive end DOES get underneath the block but then the guy who is supposed to cover his back doesn't and the running back gets into the secondary on the perimeter with the potential for a big play.

No matter how many times teams have run kick out blocks against the Bucs this season it seems like one of these scenarios continues to play out several times during the game each and every week. And the run defense continues to get carved up.

I'm just going to give a few more comments about the defense and then the individual breakdowns.

- It appears that the injuries finally truly caught up with the Bucs. For one when you look and see Myron Lewis and Elbert Mack playing important roles in dime then you know there's a problem. Mack just is not a good secondary. Lewis has the potential to be but its obvious he isn't ready right now.

Nothing to be ashamed about there, most rookies aren't ready to play their first year. Ask Ronde Barber about whether that's such a bad thing.

But unfortunately because of injuries the Bucs don't have a choice but to play both guys.

With Lewis his technique is just so bad right now that him making any plays at all would be a massive feat. He turns the wrong way when looking for the ball, sticks out the wrong arm when trying to make a play on the ball, is not the greatest tackler. And yet the Bucs don't really have anyone else.

So you try to hide them with big cushions. But then a team picks on them BECAUSE of the big cushions. So you put them up in bump and then teams bomb them out of the stadium. It's clear to me that those guys being out there would severely hamper what any defensive coordinator in the world's play book.

Similarly with Gerald McCoy out now there is no big time pass rusher inside for the Bucs. That means that on first and second downs its not as likely that the defensive line will get a pass rush all on their own against play action. Do you blitz to help out with the pass rush? If you do then you might leave Lewis out there on an island by himself.

Is that really a risk you are willing to take?

But then again even if the Bucs play zone and rush four the fact that the quarterback won't be pressured means that the secondary will still be stressed.

That's the conundrum that Coach Morris is faced with because of the loss of McCoy.

And lets not forget about the free safety position where the Bucs have gone from a potential Pro Bowler, to a helluva late round gem, to a guy who has ball skills but just isn't very physical.

You put all that together and you have what we all saw yesterday.

It is what it is.

- By the way, the people who continue to make asses out of themselves complaining about Barrett Ruud will look particularly silly when they try to pin the terrible run defense on him this time. I don't think he was out of position the whole game. But hey, for some folks in this area it doesn't matter whose play it actually was, its still Ruud's fault, smdh.

- It still bothers the hell out of me that the Bucs defensive line isn't good at running pass rush games. Yesterday Mike Bennett and Tim Crowder try to run an EX. Crowder sets the guard up beautifully with a fake bull rush. Crowder, however, gets up field too much to come in and pick the guard so both he and Crowder ends up stuck in their one on ones.

Alex Magee and Stylez white are on the other side attempting to run a TEX with Stylez as the inside rusher. Stylez does a great job of getting of the ball, making a move on the guard, and then trying to get to the offensive tackle's back. Magee, however, only took two steps up field and then came inside allowing the offensive tackle to follow him right into Stylez's rush and pin him inside.

What is it about "looping inside late will allow the inside rusher a chance to get to the offensive tackle's back" that's hard to understand?!?!?!

- Again, the Bucs ran somewhere in the area of 32 blitzes yesterday. And yet they came away with no sacks, few pressures, and no turnovers on the day. That, my friends, is a major problem.

On to the individual breakdowns.

Tim Crowder: Crowder had 1 tackle and two assists by my count. He was ok for most of the game but he was one of the ends who didn't get underneath the kick out block against the run. That HAS to get fixed.

Frank Okam: Didn't really know what to expect from Okam but I thought he played ok. He was in his gap most of the game and I had him with 2 tackles and 3 assists. As I did expect though he wasn't much of a factor as far as pass rush goes. They did have him drop underneath a tight end one time which showed they believe in his athletic ability. Not a bad start for his career as a Buccaneer.

Roy Miller: Roy is a guy who played well most of the day but again he got washed on some of those kick out block plays and made it easier for the running back to come down hill. I had him with 1 tackle and 1 assist.

Stylez G White: I thought Stylez played ok but he didn't get near enough pressure on the quarterback. He had many opportunities one on one against the offensive tackle but didn't even have a pressure. He did almost get to the quarterback late in the game but he was just a half a second late and it gave Drew Stanton just long enough to get the ball off to Calvin Johnson for a 1st down.

I had him with 1 tackle and 2 assists and he did hustle well to the ball all day. But the Bucs needed more production out of him yesterday and didn't get it. With McCoy out he has to find a way to make more plays if this defense is going to have a shot at being any good.

Michael Bennett: I still believe that playing Bennett at undertackle instead of Okam was the better option. Okam played ok but he wasn't dynamic and I believe Bennett would have been.

Just had to say that.

I only had Bennett with 1 assisted tackle. He did force a holding penalty with his penetration one play which was good. But he is another guy who needed to be more productive yesterday and wasn't. Potential is great but unless production follows it all goes to waste. At some point Bennett is simply going to have to play better or he will be one of those guys that get labeled as never fulfilling his potential.

Al Woods: I had Woods with two tackles. He played well most of the day but on a simple ISO play he got knocked into the opposite A gap opening up a huge lane for the running back to go through. He is going to have to work on anchoring in their against double teams.

Alex Magee: Magee got a lot more oportunities on Sunday and I had him with 1 tackle. He had an opportunity for a sack but he missed the tackle on Stanton. I thought he played ok.

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#1 : December 20, 2010, 01:10:53 PM

The people that blame Ruud all the time actually don't know much about foootball


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#2 : December 20, 2010, 01:12:26 PM

- By the way, the people who continue to make asses out of themselves complaining about Barrett Ruud will look particularly silly when they try to pin the terrible run defense on him this time. I don't think he was out of position the whole game. But hey, for some folks in this area it doesn't matter whose play it actually was, its still Ruud's fault, smdh.

lolz, here we go with the "being in position" crap again.  Can we just put a tackling dummy out on the field to "be in position", because that seems to be good enough for Stevie White.


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#3 : December 20, 2010, 01:21:08 PM

"Shopping Cart" Ruud earned a new nickname yesterday--- "Bowling Pin" Ruud.
I saw one play where he took out 2 other Buc players when he got WIPED OUT.

Oh, and Steve White-- TELL DREW STANTON & GENO HAYES THAT "WE DIDN'T GET ANY PRESSURE" when blitzing-- about knocked Stanton out of the game!!!
I will agree, tho.... most of the time Ruud blitzes- he ends up dancing with the cutest offensive lineman.  :P




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#4 : December 20, 2010, 02:33:54 PM

Steve White sucked in the NFL. He wouldn't know how to play a NFL position regardless. His beliefs on Ruud have zero merit.

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#5 : December 20, 2010, 02:52:29 PM

If Steve White spent half as much time in the film and weight room as he does writing his stupid blog , he might have actually been a half-way decent player.

Stevie would tell you it's just because he understands the game better than us lowly fans. However , he's the only ex-player I've seen so vigorously defend Ruud's soft style of play. Ian Beckles watches the games with a room full of ex players and, to a man , they all say Ruud sucks ( he said so on his radio show ). Poor Stevie still won't let it go , however. Some people hate to be wrong....


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#6 : December 20, 2010, 02:56:35 PM

Steve White played defense, has coached at the Pee Wee, High School, and collegiate level, and has written a book about coaching youth football. I'd say he's qualified to have an opinion. It doesn't make it invalid just because it's not the same as yours. Ruud haters just live to hate, and will hate on anyone that doesn't share their hatred.


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#7 : December 20, 2010, 02:58:29 PM

Steve White sucked in the NFL.

He wasn't that bad actually.   If Steve White in his prime was on the current Bucs team, he would be their best lineman.

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#8 : December 20, 2010, 02:59:26 PM

Steve White sucked in the NFL.

He wasn't that bad actually.   If Steve White in his prime was on the current Bucs team, he would be their best lineman.

He sucked .That's why when we replaced his fat ass with Greg Spires we won the superbowl....


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#9 : December 20, 2010, 03:00:26 PM

There are like only 2 people that I know that doesn't think Ruud sucks. And that is CBWx2 and Steve White

The rest of the fanbase wants him gone. I think the loners should do some more thinking. I bet those same wanted to keep Kenytta Walker as long as we did.

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#10 : December 20, 2010, 03:05:04 PM

There are like only 2 people that I know that doesn't think Ruud sucks. And that is CBWx2 and Steve White

The rest of the fanbase wants him gone. I think the loners should do some more thinking. I bet those same wanted to keep Kenytta Walker as long as we did.

Steve White breaks down and analyzes plays, and uses his fact based knowledge to diagnose what happens when things break down. Ruud haters blame Ruud on plays that Ruud wasn't even remotely in position to make (the Todd Heap TD reception that got Sabby Piscitelli cut, for example). So you tell me which side has more merit, because it should be obvious as hell to a rational mind.


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#11 : December 20, 2010, 03:07:16 PM

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#12 : December 20, 2010, 03:12:07 PM

If Steve White was right , the Bucs would be offering Ruud contract extensions.... The fact that one of the worst defenses in the NFL has no interest in re-signing him proves that he's a garbage can. He's part of problem , not the solution.

He's soft . Period. Anyone who can't see that is blind.



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#13 : December 20, 2010, 03:12:51 PM

your not alone CBWx2

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#14 : December 20, 2010, 03:26:34 PM

Ruud has plenty of flaws, but if we had 11 guys who played in the right spot our defense would look a helluva lot better.

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