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: January 11, 2011, 09:25:44 AM

We know that MD uses a BPA Big Board as evidenced by the two DT's picked last year...  which I believe surprised everyone myself included.

We also know we have to address three major issues

1.  Pass Rush
2.  Run Blocking
3.  Protecting '5'

and to a lesser degree get depth at HB and at DB.

Here's my take...   Pre-Senior Bowl, Pre-Combine, Pre-ProDay.

Keep in mind that anyone left over from Round 1's board that is available in Round 2 is the pick.  I've listed
them in preference order of value (of course IMO.)  Some of these cats might be worth trading up for too...

Your comments?


My Bucs Big Board (Pre Senior Bowl)

Did not address FB/S/WR/QB/K/P in the first 3 rounds.

Round 1 (@20)
CB Patrick Peterson
DE DaQuan Bowers
CB Prince Amukamara
DE Robert Kerrigan
DE Robert Quinn
LB Von Miller
OC Stefen Wisniewski
LB Greg Jones
LB Akeem Ayers
DE JJ Watt
LOT Derek Sherrod

Round 2 (@51)
ROT Gabe Carimi
LB Courtney Upshaw
LB Kelvin Sheppard
RB Mark Ingram
DE Adrian Clayborn
DE Justin Houston
OC/G Mike Pouncey
OC Jake Kirkpatrick
ROT Anthony Constanzo
DE Allen Bailey

Round 3 (@84)
CB DeAndre McDaniel
DE Greg Romeus
DE Aldon Smith
TE DJ Williams
CB Jimmy Smith
DE Jabaal Sheard
OG Rodney Hudson
DE Jeremy Beal
OG Marcus Cannon
DE Sam Acho
RB Kendall Hunter
CB Davon House

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#1 : January 11, 2011, 09:29:08 AM

Ryan Kerrigan, and I don't think Aldon Smith falls to the 3rd round.


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#2 : January 11, 2011, 09:41:46 AM

Yea I don't see Smith falling either.  He may slip into the second but he has that Pierre-Paul like athleticism that someone is going to want to develop early.

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#3 : January 11, 2011, 09:42:29 AM

Yeah (dur)... Ryan. Can't edit?   

If Smith were to fall to the third, what the big board implies is that if everyone before him on that list is gone he'd be the pick (value.)

Kinda how we ended up with Brian Price last year...



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#4 : January 11, 2011, 09:43:14 AM

RBs

Noel Devine - West Virginia 7 (undersized but Barry Sanders like moves, very good speed but amazing  quickness and change of direction, good reciever too)
Allen Bradford - USC Trojans 7 (low miles, big tough with surprising speed, No Nonsense north and south runner, Not much experience recieving though)
Doug Martin - Boise State Broncos  7 (Jack of all trades. good size, speed, and strength. no nonsense north and south, good reciever)
Mikel Leshoure - Illinois 6   (Bigger Caddie, ok runner with better speed, good reciever. good 3rd down back)
Chad Spann - N. Illinois 6 (Great balance, good speed, great vision, very strong for his size)
 
FBs

Owen Marecic - Stanford 7 (Tough as nails, plays LB too)

WRs

Matt Szczur - Villanova 7 (Small school Wes Welker)

TEs

Kyle Rudolph - Notre Dame 7

C

Stefen Wisniewski - Penn State 8
Kris O'Dowd - USC 8
Tim Barnes - Missouri 7

OT

Gabe Carimi - Wisconsin 9
Marcus Cannon - TCU  8
Joe Barksdale - Loiusiana State 8
Darius Morris - Temple 7
DeMarcus Love - Arkansas 7

OG

John Moffitt -Wisconsin 7
Ben Ijalana - Villanova 7
Mike Pouncey - Florida 7 (Better Center than OG)

DE

Ryan Kerrigan - Purdue 9 (Not stop motor, hard worker)
Robert Quinn - NC Tarheels 9 (Brain tumor still an issue?)
Justin Houston - Georgia 8
JJ Watt - Wisconsin 8
Jabaal Sheard - Pittsburgh 7
Aldon Smith - Mizzou 7
Jeremy Beal - Oklohoma 6
Sam Acho - Texas 6
Ryan Winterswyk -Boise 6
Christian Anthony - Grambling 6 (Heart Attack?)
Steven Friday - VT 5
Markus White - FSU 5

ILB

Nate Irving - NCS Wolfpack  8 (6'1" 235lbs but he plays much bigger, very aggressive, great at shedding blocks and stopping the run, also excels in coverage. I like him as MLB, but I'd like him even more to take Geno Hayes at WLB)
Casey Matthews - Oregon 7 (Needs to add some muscle, but has good instincts, motor, and genes)
Alex Wujciak- Maryland 7
Chris Galippo - USC 7
Mario Harvey - Marshall 6
Kelvin Sheppard - LSU 6  (Shows flashes but doesn't give 100% and is no more physical than Ruud)
Chris White - Mississippi State 6
Nick Bellore - Central Michigan 5

OLB

Akeem Ayers - UCLA Bruins 8
Mark Herzlich - Boston 7 ( Not as good as he was pre cancer, and the cancer is a worry long term, but he's still such an all around great LB that it's worth the risk. Often tackles to low around the ankles. I'm curious to see if he could be MLB in our defense)
Mason Foster - Washington 6
Brooks Reed - Arizona 6 (another hard working guy with a non stop motor, surprisenly fluid for a guy his size but coverage ability is suspect because he played mostly DE in college. Has to make the change to OLB)
Chris Carter - Fresno State 5 (Natural pass rusher)
Tank Carder - TCU  5
Mike Gee - IUP 5 (small school, big time player)

FS

Quinton Carter - Sooners 8
Kenny Tate - Maryland 7
Jaiquawn Jarrett - Temple 7
Jalil Brown - Colorado 7
Deunta Williams - NC Tarheels 7
Rahim Moore - UCLA Bruins 7
Chris Conte - California 6
Brian Lainhart - Kent 6
Steven Jackson - Ohio 6

SS

Davonte Shannon - Buffalo 7
Shiloh Keo - Idaho 6
Joe Lefeged - Rutgers 6

CB

Ras-I Dowling - Virginia 9 (Great size and physicality but loses nothing in speed or coverage ability. Senior year sucked due to injuries, but he's a first round CB talent wise. Could also be a great Free safety. Punishing tackler)
Jimmy Smith - Colorado 7 (. Big physical, fast, all around good cover CB....Bad tackler though)



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#5 : January 11, 2011, 05:05:35 PM

At 20 the order is
1. Robert Quinn, DE
2. Ryan Kerrigan, DE
3. Aldon Smith, DE
4. Justin Houston, DE

At 51
1. Adrian Clayborn, DE (just have a feeling he will drop, I might be wrong)
2. Greg Jones, LB
3. Jeremy Beal, DE
4. Cameron Heyward, DE

At 84
1. Jeremy Beal (might drop here), DE
2. Bruce Carter, OLB
3. Nate Irving, LB
4. Sam Acho, DE

I think the first 3 picks will either be 2 DE and 1 LB or 2 LB's and 1 DE

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#6 : January 12, 2011, 08:29:02 AM

I tend to agree with most of what ya got there tbb...

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#7 : January 12, 2011, 01:11:02 PM

 -  I like Amukamara more than Peterson. I think he's a better cover corner, which is ultimately what you are drafting a CB for.

 - I've only seen clips on the internet of Von Miller, but watched a lot of Beal over the past two years. Maybe my assessment is thus unfair, but I like Beal more. More size, can do more than speed rush around the outside.

 - For Tampa, I think the absolute best possible scenario at #20 is Robert Quinn. There is a strong possibility that he wont be there, especially with a great combine, workout, etc. (see: Brandon Graham). I would say he is the most complete pass rushing DE, and overall BPA the Bucs could land at pick #20.

 - While I am a big fan of his and enjoy watching him play, I do not think Clayborn is a good fit in Tampa. I believe that Clayborn ideally profiles as a 3-4 DE. In a 4-3 he is a LDE.

 - I am absolutely on the Ras-I Dowling bandwagon

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#8 : January 12, 2011, 01:28:40 PM

also...

 - I think OL is a very real (and maybe the best) possibility at pick #20 for Tampa.

 - Pouncey is ABSOLUTELY NOT in any way a center. End of story. If you watched a single drive with him at center this year, you'd know this.

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#9 : January 12, 2011, 01:38:56 PM


 - I am absolutely on the Ras-I Dowling bandwagon

Welcome!!!  :P

Unfortunately Janoris Jenkins decided not to declare, so that hurts the chance that Dowling will be there at the 52nd pick. My fingers will remained crossed!

I know a great CB has much more value than a great FS, but with Dowling's physical nature, size, wrap up tackling, and big hit capability...I think he could be a top 5 safety in the NFL. Cornerback or Free Safety, either way we'd be adding a pro bowl caliber playmaker to our secondary.


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#10 : January 12, 2011, 04:07:30 PM

I hope we draft Casey Matthews in the 3rd.


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#11 : January 12, 2011, 04:11:52 PM

well it sounds like DE is priority #1 followed by LB, which I suspect will be a will and not a mike.  OG is probably 3rd.


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#12 : January 12, 2011, 04:13:53 PM

DE, MLB, DE, OG, BPA would work for me.

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#13 : January 12, 2011, 04:41:14 PM

Most of the players listed in this thread won't fall as far as some of you hope. Watt could fall, but Quinn and Kerrigan, no way. Heyward, Clayborn will fall, but I want no part of either of them. Ayers and Miller probably go a few picks before us. Smith goes somewhere between 17 and 25. Watt or Smith is the most realistic pick at 1 unless Ayers or Miller fall. If both are gone, Pouncey or Carimi is a good choice.

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#14 : January 12, 2011, 04:43:59 PM

I hope we draft Casey Matthews in the 3rd.

I like Mathews, but just about every site I look at says he will be a good back up and special teams player in the NFL. He's projected to go in the 4th or later.

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