BCS Conferences

[John Galt?]

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

Well that is because the BE played HALF as many bowl games. The SEC had 65 teams play in bowls the last 8 years, the BE only 42.

3 of the SEC's bowl losses were UK, UT, and UGa-teams with LOSING conference records.

and when you look at NCs it is 5-0. Has any CURRENT Big East member won a title-EVER? Maybe after TCU joins.

[Fitz66]

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

Well that is because the BE played HALF as many bowl games.

Isn't that at least partially due to the fact that there are more teams in the SEC?

[Biggs3535]

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

Well that is because the BE played HALF as many bowl games.

Isn't that at least partially due to the fact that there are more teams in the SEC?

Partially, but the SEC has higher percentage of teams in bowl games as well.

Big East - 42/64 = 65.6%
SEC - 65/96 = 67.7%

[TBayXXXVII]

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

Well that is because the BE played HALF as many bowl games.

Isn't that at least partially due to the fact that there are more teams in the SEC?

Partially, but the SEC has higher percentage of teams in bowl games as well.

Big East - 42/64 = 65.6%
SEC - 65/96 = 67.7%

WOW!!! 2 WHOLE TEAMS in 8 years??!!!

[Biggs3535]

WOW!!! 2 WHOLE TEAMS in 8 years??!!!

Read it again.  It's 2%+ and 23 more teams in 8 years.

[TBayXXXVII]

WOW!!! 2 WHOLE TEAMS in 8 years??!!!

Read it again.  It's 2%+ and 23 more teams in 8 years.

Don't need to read it again.  That 2% would gone if just 2 more teams over the last 8 years had made a bowl game.  Percentages are just that.  In the last 8 years, the Big East has had 65% of it's teams make a bowl game and the SEC had 67%.  Are you saying that the BE needed to have 65 of it's 64 teams make a bowl game to be equal to the SEC?  You're saying that the Big East needed a 101.5% bowl representation?  If the BE had 44 teams (instead of 42), make a bowl game, they'd be 1% better than the SEC.
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[Biggs3535]

WOW!!! 2 WHOLE TEAMS in 8 years??!!!

Read it again.  It's 2%+ and 23 more teams in 8 years.

Don't need to read it again.  That 2% would gone if just 2 more teams over the last 8 years had made a bowl game.  Percentages are just that.  In the last 8 years, the Big East has had 65% of it's teams make a bowl game and the SEC had 67%.  Are you saying that the BE needed to have 65 of it's 64 teams make a bowl game to be equal to the SEC?  You're saying that the Big East needed a 101.5% bowl representation?  If the BE had 44 teams (instead of 42), make a bowl game, they'd be 1% better than the SEC.
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You are still missing the entire point, so reading it again might help.  Here, I'll make it easier.

The SEC has had more (overwhelmingly) teams and a higher percentage (slightly) of their teams make bowl games in the last 8 years.

[Feel Real Good]

Why is someone arguing against the conference that has had 4 different teams winning 5 straight national championships?

[John Galt?]

Why is someone arguing against the conference that has had 4 different teams winning 5 straight national championships?

because in BCS national championships the BE is UNDEFEATED!!!


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[Col. Klink]

WOW!!! 2 WHOLE TEAMS in 8 years??!!!

Read it again.  It's 2%+ and 23 more teams in 8 years.

Don't need to read it again.  That 2% would gone if just 2 more teams over the last 8 years had made a bowl game.  Percentages are just that.  In the last 8 years, the Big East has had 65% of it's teams make a bowl game and the SEC had 67%.  Are you saying that the BE needed to have 65 of it's 64 teams make a bowl game to be equal to the SEC?  You're saying that the Big East needed a 101.5% bowl representation?  If the BE had 44 teams (instead of 42), make a bowl game, they'd be 1% better than the SEC.
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You are still missing the entire point, so reading it again might help.  Here, I'll make it easier.

The SEC has had more (overwhelmingly) teams and a higher percentage (slightly) of their teams make bowl games in the last 8 years.

here we go again .... You get to bowls by beating other conference mates which doesn't tell you squat about stacking up against other conferences. A true measure would be reg season ooc games against other conferences and the results .... actually, JG? may have done research on this to shut me up a while back, but if he did, it didn't take ... 

And enough with the 5 straight MNC wins. All those represent are 5 wins against another conference and I would allow those, and only those, bowl games to be included in the ooc head to head comparisons ....

[Biggs3535]

You get to bowls by beating other conference mates which doesn't tell you squat about stacking up against other conferences.

Right, bowls do.  I'm not sure if you're aware, but teams play other conferences in bowl games.

A true measure would be reg season ooc games against other conferences and the results ...

So to you,  results from August/September are more important than results from December/January?  Do you realize how small the minority is that you are in?

Why is someone arguing against the conference that has had 4 different teams winning 5 straight national championships?

You got me, but there are a few stubborn folks that like to disregard them:

And enough with the 5 straight MNC wins.

[Col. Klink]

You get to bowls by beating other conference mates which doesn't tell you squat about stacking up against other conferences.

Right, bowls do.  I'm not sure if you're aware, but teams play other conferences in bowl games.

A true measure would be reg season ooc games against other conferences and the results ...

So to you,  results from August/September are more important than results from December/January?  Do you realize how small the minority is that you are in?

Yes ... definitely. Games played a month after the season, not knowing what kind of mindset each particular team has, is not a very valid barometer, IMO .... and yes, sadly, I do realize we independent thinkers are a dwindling brood ... 

Why is someone arguing against the conference that has had 4 different teams winning 5 straight national championships?

You got me, but there are a few stubborn folks that like to disregard them:

And enough with the 5 straight MNC wins.

 

[Feel Real Good]

And enough with the 5 straight MNC wins. All those represent are 5 wins against another conference and I would allow those, and only those, bowl games to be included in the ooc head to head comparisons ....

The national championship is the only bowl game you can be sure means something to both teams. With all other bowl games, you never know who really wants to be there and who doesn't. Sometimes the kids are more concerned with going to the beach and getting free ipods than playing winning football. Maybe a coach just got fired, is about to get fired, or is interviewing for other jobs. It's a problematic measuring stick for conferences. You're better off comparing regular season conference against conference games.

[Biggs3535]

You're better off comparing regular season conference against conference games.

The only problem with this is how often do you have the #1 or #2 teams from one conference playing the #1 or #2 (or similarly seeded) team from another conference?

It happens every year during bowl season.

[roaddog]

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

Well that is because the BE played HALF as many bowl games.

Isn't that at least partially due to the fact that there are more teams in the SEC?

Would be curious to see what the head-to-head out-of-conference regular season records have been against each other ...

'Cuz if they actually played more relevant OOC competition on the regular ... I doubt if half of the teams in the SEC would even qualify for most of the Bowl Games they've locked themselves into.