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#15 : January 13, 2011, 09:58:55 AM

I think it is better strategy to double up on linebackers on the back end than another defensive end. The difference between a mid round linebacker and late rounder isn't that much. They're all about 6'2" 235 lbs and run a 4.7. You're a lot more likely to find a player who slipped through the cracks at that position than defensive end, where a lot of times at the end of the draft you're only looking at the Julian Jenkins of the world.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#16 : January 13, 2011, 10:04:22 AM

Only things I might change

1) Dont see Quinn dropping to us wouldnt be a bad choice Kerrigan or Quinn but I think Quinn at worst is a top 12 pick

2) I like the OL prospect from Miami Orlando Franklin he is a big athletic Tackle/Guard and I think he will be a solid guy late second- mid third

As long as Quinn isn't in the top ten he lands in Tampa. Then I'm not big on two power backs + caddy but I would throw in Noel Devine instead, he's more a specialist and a great compliment to Blount. Other then that, Bravo!!! The best Mock yet and I hope the real one favors this. The only other thing, I don't believe we pass on Ras I Dowling either

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#17 : January 13, 2011, 10:06:54 AM

With Carnell Williams a free agent, and no real option behind Blount .My thinking is to continue to keep opposing defenses honest why no draft another big back. It is also added insurance against injury and any other problems that might arise from Blount. The ability of the Bucs to be able to have a consistent ground game will only further the development of Freeman.
I agree about the RB position. Caddy is an example of why you need a stable of good ones.

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#18 : January 13, 2011, 10:18:10 AM

With four of the teams linebackers unrestricted free agents(Ruud, Black, Hayward, & Niko) linebacker looks / appears to be just as big of a need as finding an edge rusher. If the Bucs don't / can't resign Ruud, Black or Hayward that is two starters and their top reserve, who played all three linebacker spots that need to be filled. While there are two in-house candidate's in McKenzie & Watson that leaves them no depth or competition at any linebacker spot.  Now as far as they're not as needed goes, only time will tell. But as stated if the Bucs by the time the draft rolls around lost all four, one could say linebacker is just as much of  a need as finding offensive lineman and and edge rusher or two is.

Black, Niko and Hayward are sack of rocks guys and Black plays that SLB spot that is a joke to fill so that is a place to get a low/mid tier FA type to fill in.


-1, yucc, u did ur thing boss buc. I'm definitly gonna make some changes to my mock to favor yours. We're lucky to have fans that put so much effort into see-ing there team improve

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#19 : January 13, 2011, 11:00:14 AM

Me likey, Yuccs.  Nice work, as always.


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#20 : January 13, 2011, 11:20:55 AM

We're lucky to have fans that put so much effort into see-ing there team improve

If only we could get Dominik to read these boards. Well, he probably does read them. Actually, I'm hoping that Yucc IS him. :D

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#21 : January 13, 2011, 11:22:23 AM

Interesting as always Yucs - I hope that Quinn drops, but find that hard to believe.

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#22 : January 13, 2011, 11:28:55 AM

1. Robert Quinn
2. Noel Devine
3. Tyron Smith
4. Ras I Dowling
5. Casey Matthews
6. Bruce Carter
7. Chase Beeler, C

This was the mock draft I wanted to stay with yucc, but I'm gonna make some subtle changes thx to you

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#23 : January 13, 2011, 11:31:19 AM

I think Detroit would have a really hard time passing on Quinn at 13.  JMHO.

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#24 : January 13, 2011, 11:40:55 AM

Yucc I think you put more work into these things than anyone on the board and I can't help but appreciate that. I agree with the whole thing except the RB in round 2. The way I see it is if we get a RB, he's only going to be the change of pace back. In reality, he won't be running the ball a ton because on 3rd down we would be crazy not to let Freeman do his thing. This means the 3rd down back needs good hands and needs to be able to block. I think that's something we can find later in the draft or even go after a guy like Leonard in FA. If we could keep Caddy on the cheap and he was younger, I think we'd be set but that isn't the case. Maybe Huggins can block? But the biggest reason I don't think we should take RB (or go BPA) is because the 2nd round (IMO) is the most important of the draft. The first has guys who make your impact or totally flame out but the second round is full of guys who might have underachieved or played against smaller schools. That doesn't mean they aren't good, it just means nobody has really seen it. If we can do our research and find a guy in the 2nd round to fit our needs (along with the 1st round pick), we will be set not unlike we did in last years draft. Not a majority of the picks but just the first two need to be extremely thought out. Then with the 3rd round on, we go BPA with the wild cards and see if we can pull another talent out of there. Just the way I see it but if this draft happened I wouldn't be mad in the least

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#25 : January 13, 2011, 11:44:18 AM

I think Detroit would have a really hard time passing on Quinn at 13.  JMHO.


Be more afraid of the TiTans hailing him as the next Javon Kearse at #9, especially if they get a QB in FA. As long as he passes them I think we're in a good position to move on him in the teens

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#26 : January 13, 2011, 12:56:10 PM

The reason I took Quinn of Kerrigan is multi-faceted. First Kerrigan has proven his worth over a longer period of time and is fresher in GM's minds. Couple that with Quinn's year long suspension and medical history and he could very well drop while players like Bowers, Smith & Kerrigan climb. Couple that with the fact the Watt's and some defensive tackles will be taken by 3-4 teams and tweeners will be taken by some of those same 3-4 teams as Quinn has never shown he can play in space.


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#27 : January 13, 2011, 02:26:57 PM

I personally don't have a problem with the 2nd round RB if we still can get 1 or 2 LBs and a OG in following rounds.  Not a fan of keeping Caddy and we can save a roster spot by having one backup that can not only handle 3rd downs but could be a full time starter if Blount gets hurt, unlike a 190 pound back like Devine, Locke, or Rodgers .  And with Blount's running style I can definately see him getting injured.  He would be good value at #52 as well.  The guy from Kansas St. would be another similar option but is probably a 3rd rounder. 


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#28 : January 13, 2011, 09:49:05 PM

Ok, i did it Yucc, i think i nailed this one thx to you. You had me go back in the lab an really buckle down, so here it goes:

#1. Robert Quinn, DE, UNC
#2. Ras I Dowling, CB, Virginia
#3. Noel devine, specialists, WV
#4. K.J. Wright, OLB, Miss. St.
#5. Mike Mohamed, ILB, Cal
#6. Zach Hurd, OG, UCONN
#7. Chase Beeler, C, Stanford
 
i dont think i'll change it untill after the combine, unless something drastic happens. Tell me what you think

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#29 : January 13, 2011, 09:51:19 PM

With Carnell Williams a free agent, and no real option behind Blount .My thinking is to continue to keep opposing defenses honest why no draft another big back. It is also added insurance against injury and any other problems that might arise from Blount. The ability of the Bucs to be able to have a consistent ground game will only further the development of Freeman.

sounds like a plan!!

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 I thought Lovie said he wanted quickness & speed, even at the QB position?
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