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#30 : January 13, 2011, 10:25:04 PM

I think Allen Bradford in the 5th is the way to go.


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#31 : January 13, 2011, 10:29:47 PM

I honestly don't think we'll do it, but I would have zero problem taking Leshoure if he's there in round 2.  I don't think he'll be there either.

I wouldn't be surprised if we come out of the draft (maybe not in the R2) with Devine or Rodgers.


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#32 : January 13, 2011, 10:37:21 PM

You know what amazes me. I look around the web and spend way too much time looking at prospects and scouting reports and such, and every site I go to doesn't have Doug Martin anywhere on the radar. Now he's a junior that won't declare (because he wouldn't even be drafted) but most sites don't even have him listed. Not even projected as an undrafted free agent. just completely missing from anyones listings. I just can't understand it. The dude is a flat out playmaker and his stats are ridiculous. (over 2ooo yards, 6.1 YPC, and 27 TDs the last two seasons) and he plays for a popular team (Boise State)  It's a conspiracy. I just don't get it.


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#33 : January 14, 2011, 02:43:18 AM

I like the idea of what you did and I think thought was put into it, it just seems like everyone of your picks (but LeShure, the only one I don't like or get) are not going to be available in the round you assign them. While I would LOVE to have Quinn I think he's a top 15 pick no matter what, Ijalana is a 2nd round pick in most of the stuff I've seen, and Irving is at worst a 3rd round pick. I love all of the players mentioned I just don't think we will be able to select them.
With that said, here is the tbb345 pre-combine mock draft: Trade Josh Johnson to the 49ers for a swap of 2nd and 3rd round picks and then take...
1. Ryan Kerrigan
2. Greg Jones
3. Nate Irving
4. Will Rackley

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#34 : January 14, 2011, 03:27:17 AM

I think if we dont go LB or DE in round one and two then I could see us going RB early on if the values there. I do think that OL should be looked at too from a value standpoint. I say you go BPA at all those positions and kind of strategize towards next years draft strengths as well. I would guess that they do that.

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#35 : January 14, 2011, 08:31:15 AM

LeGarrette Blount and Chris Ivory were the top rookie running backs in 2010. Both were undrafted.

In 2009 there was Arian Foster undrafted, Mike Goodson in the 4th, and Javon Ringer in the 6th.

In 2008 there was Tanard Choice in the 4th, Ryan Torian in the 5th, Peyton Hillis in the 7th, and Ben Jarvus Green-Ellis was undrafted.

In 2007 there was Micheal Bush in the 4th, Le'Ron McClain in the 5th, and Ahmad Bradshaw in the 7th

In 2006 there was Leon Washington in the 4th, and Jerome Harrison in the 5th

In 2005 there was Marion Barber in the 4th, Brondon Jacobs in the 4th, Darren Sproles in the 4th, and Ryan Grant went undrafted.

I could go on and on and on, but the point is there are ALWAYS good running backs in the 4th round or later. Always. It's easier to find late round gems at RB than any other position by far. Combine that with the fact that RBs have the shortest NFL lifespan (3.5 years on average) and it just becomes a waste to spend anything higher than a 4th on a RB. Just throwing picks away.


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#36 : January 14, 2011, 08:35:56 AM

Ok, i did it Yucc, i think i nailed this one thx to you. You had me go back in the lab an really buckle down, so here it goes:

#1. Robert Quinn, DE, UNC
#2. Ras I Dowling, CB, Virginia
#3. Noel devine, specialists, WV
#4. K.J. Wright, OLB, Miss. St.
#5. Mike Mohamed, ILB, Cal
#6. Zach Hurd, OG, UCONN
#7. Chase Beeler, C, Stanford
 
i dont think i'll change it untill after the combine, unless something drastic happens. Tell me what you think

You know what, I'm not completely sold on Zach Hurd at #6. The rest is set in stone and i'd be happy if it turned out this way, but I think I can dig a little more an find a better late round interior lineman. Let me know if you have any suggestion for #6

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#37 : January 19, 2011, 05:34:22 PM

http://sidelinescouting.com/interviews/mike-mohamed.shtml

Interview

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#38 : January 19, 2011, 06:40:11 PM

#1. Quinn/Kerrigan
#2. Jimmy Smith, CB, CU
#3. K.j Wright
#4. Noel Devine
#5. Willie Smith, OT, ECU
#6. Mike Mohamed
#7. Chase Beeler

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#39 : January 19, 2011, 07:04:53 PM

LeGarrette Blount and Chris Ivory were the top rookie running backs in 2010. Both were undrafted.

In 2009 there was Arian Foster undrafted, Mike Goodson in the 4th, and Javon Ringer in the 6th.

In 2008 there was Tanard Choice in the 4th, Ryan Torian in the 5th, Peyton Hillis in the 7th, and Ben Jarvus Green-Ellis was undrafted.

In 2007 there was Micheal Bush in the 4th, Le'Ron McClain in the 5th, and Ahmad Bradshaw in the 7th

In 2006 there was Leon Washington in the 4th, and Jerome Harrison in the 5th

In 2005 there was Marion Barber in the 4th, Brondon Jacobs in the 4th, Darren Sproles in the 4th, and Ryan Grant went undrafted.

I could go on and on and on, but the point is there are ALWAYS good running backs in the 4th round or later. Always. It's easier to find late round gems at RB than any other position by far. Combine that with the fact that RBs have the shortest NFL lifespan (3.5 years on average) and it just becomes a waste to spend anything higher than a 4th on a RB. Just throwing picks away.

Exactly.

The quest for .500 begins...

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#40 : January 19, 2011, 07:30:33 PM

You know what amazes me. I look around the web and spend way too much time looking at prospects and scouting reports and such, and every site I go to doesn't have Doug Martin anywhere on the radar. Now he's a junior that won't declare (because he wouldn't even be drafted) but most sites don't even have him listed. Not even projected as an undrafted free agent. just completely missing from anyones listings. I just can't understand it. The dude is a flat out playmaker and his stats are ridiculous. (over 2ooo yards, 6.1 YPC, and 27 TDs the last two seasons) and he plays for a popular team (Boise State)  It's a conspiracy. I just don't get it.
Most sites won't bother to list Jr's that more than likely won't come out.

Why would you? If they listed every decent Jr it would take a whole lot of time.


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#41 : January 19, 2011, 08:21:34 PM

Well the sites I visit list both Seniors and juniors. If he was projected to go before the 5th round, he'd probably have declared. That was my point though. He's not even on the radar, much less considered a top 20 RB. That's what I don't get.

I mean we are talking about a guy that is on one of the top teams in college, and over the past two years has ran for over 2k yards and scored 29 TDs.

I don't know. I guess I'll be one of the few that won't be surprised when he suddenly bursts onto the scene and becomes a top 5 RB next year. Dude is money.

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