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#1 : February 04, 2011, 05:37:21 PM

Another socialist... errrr liberal group steps on the crank on camera.  Ooops.... First Acorn, now Planned Parenthood to be outside the purported purpose of their organizations - well I did say purported...

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#2 : February 04, 2011, 05:56:20 PM

Planned Parenthood said it had promptly notified law enforcement authorities after the visit, but it also said it was investigating whether the clinic employee in the video may have violated some of the organization's policies.

Planned Parenthood had proactively revealed the broad outlines of the new undercover operation last week, reporting that at least 12 of its clinics across the country had been visited by men claiming to be sex-traffickers.

The organization, which is the leading U.S. provider of abortions, asked federal authorities to investigate and said it had identified a man involved in the visits as linked to Live Action - from Huffingtonpost.com
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#3 : February 04, 2011, 06:05:31 PM

Yea, getting one's hand slapped will make you react - after ignoring the issues. 

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#4 : February 04, 2011, 06:07:05 PM

Even police departments have officers that don't follow policy. Doesn't mean that all officers/departments are worthless.

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#5 : February 04, 2011, 06:27:47 PM

But this isnt the first time.

They've had several times in the past done these kind of undercover investigations with women calling and pretending to be 13 or 14 and asking about abortions from getting pregnant by their much older boyfriend. And Planned Parenthood and other abortion organizations have consistantly advised the caller that when they come to the clinic to lie about their age and the age of their boyfriend so they won't have to report it or inform the parents. This lying about their age seems to be a common theme.

And I've actually seen liberals try to justify this type of thing by saying that the girls wouldnt get legitimate medical attention otherwise in such situations.

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#6 : February 04, 2011, 10:12:06 PM

Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion. I guess loving on the baby Jesus has a way of complicating things.

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#7 : February 04, 2011, 10:43:35 PM

Even police departments have officers that don't follow policy. Doesn't mean that all officers/departments are worthless.
Let me know of a police department that uses it operation to hurt kids
Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion. I guess loving on the baby Jesus has a way of complicating things.
I am a Catholic, and was a democrat for a portion of my life.  I have been a Republican and for a bit an Independent.  The democratic party left me - I have seen the impact of Johnson's great society, Carter's bungling and blaming others - and joined the Republican party while Clinton was president - because of his conduct - and his wife's healthcare 'plan'.  I am Pro Life and Pro Choice.  That is simply for my wife and I - our lives - we are Pro Life.  Never told anyone they couldn't have an abortion, nor do I think law should have a voice in such a decision - I actually believe that is a personal decision between a man and a woman.  And I don't think you or I should tell them how to run their lives - that said - they made their choice - and they can handle the consequences - neither the monetary or the physiological impact should be assigned to me - or you - or anyone else not directly involved. 

That is the basic difference in the parties at this moment in time Durango - one wants to tell everyone how to live - the other simply wants to allow folks to live by making their own decision - with the obvious difference of the abortion issue.  However, I do believe most republicans and many democrats would tell you their feelings about abortion are very similar to my own.  I could very well be wrong about that last thought.

Insofar as the phrase 'loving on baby Jesus' you are being insulting, whether you meant it that way or not.  Just wanted you to know.  Do I believe in and love God - yep - and many on this board disagree - I have never once told anyone they were wrong or they had to change or they were going to hell.  Nor will I engage in argument over my faith - or their lack of faith.  I simply say a prayer for them and hope their decision goes well for them. But then - that very idea could be applied to me as well, well except for the prayer from folks who have no belief or faith in God.   Have a good evening Durango

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#8 : February 04, 2011, 10:52:00 PM

Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion.

This really is an ignorant argument.

Do Republicans support less government interference in any sort of murder in the country?


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#9 : February 04, 2011, 11:22:30 PM

Even police departments have officers that don't follow policy. Doesn't mean that all officers/departments are worthless.
Let me know of a police department that uses it operation to hurt kids
Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion. I guess loving on the baby Jesus has a way of complicating things.
I am a Catholic, and was a democrat for a portion of my life.  I have been a Republican and for a bit an Independent.  The democratic party left me - I have seen the impact of Johnson's great society, Carter's bungling and blaming others - and joined the Republican party while Clinton was president - because of his conduct - and his wife's healthcare 'plan'.  I am Pro Life and Pro Choice.  That is simply for my wife and I - our lives - we are Pro Life.  Never told anyone they couldn't have an abortion, nor do I think law should have a voice in such a decision - I actually believe that is a personal decision between a man and a woman.  And I don't think you or I should tell them how to run their lives - that said - they made their choice - and they can handle the consequences - neither the monetary or the physiological impact should be assigned to me - or you - or anyone else not directly involved. 

That is the basic difference in the parties at this moment in time Durango - one wants to tell everyone how to live - the other simply wants to allow folks to live by making their own decision - with the obvious difference of the abortion issue.  However, I do believe most republicans and many democrats would tell you their feelings about abortion are very similar to my own.  I could very well be wrong about that last thought.

Insofar as the phrase 'loving on baby Jesus' you are being insulting, whether you meant it that way or not.  Just wanted you to know.  Do I believe in and love God - yep - and many on this board disagree - I have never once told anyone they were wrong or they had to change or they were going to hell.  Nor will I engage in argument over my faith - or their lack of faith.  I simply say a prayer for them and hope their decision goes well for them. But then - that very idea could be applied to me as well, well except for the prayer from folks who have no belief or faith in God.   Have a good evening Durango

Personally I find abortion disgusting. However, I support abortion rights.

But government has no business involving itself in that issue. The Republican party is  against abortion as well as big government. Therein lies the hypocrisy. Which btw has been fueled via religion. That is amongst many reasons so many people are distancing themselves from the two party system. If you were to ask me if I was a D or an R I would tell you neither. If you ask me if I am a conservative or a liberal, i would ask you, what is the issue?

I think you "know" me well enough that I intended no harm to anyone on the "Baby Jesus" thing. Just coining a phrase to express a viewpoint.

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#10 : February 04, 2011, 11:23:29 PM

Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion.

This really is an ignorant argument.

Do Republicans support less government interference in any sort of murder in the country?

You are comparing a judicial issue w/ the rights one posses intrinsically.

"R" are against allowing a woman to choose but want to also keep government out of peoples lives. That is a straight-up disconnect.

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#11 : February 04, 2011, 11:27:12 PM

Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion.

This really is an ignorant argument.

Do Republicans support less government interference in any sort of murder in the country?

You are comparing a judicial issue w/ the rights one posses intrinsically.

"R" are against allowing a woman to choose but want to also keep government out of peoples lives. That is a straight-up disconnect.

Wrong.  Pro-Life people argue abortion is murder.  It has nothing to do with a woman's choice to do anything.  Women, or men, don't have the right to choose to murder someone.


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#12 : February 04, 2011, 11:46:53 PM

Republicans just love telling anyone that will listen that they support less government interference in peoples lives. Unless of course it involves something like abortion.

This really is an ignorant argument.

Do Republicans support less government interference in any sort of murder in the country?

You are comparing a judicial issue w/ the rights one posses intrinsically.

"R" are against allowing a woman to choose but want to also keep government out of peoples lives. That is a straight-up disconnect.

Wrong.  Pro-Life people argue abortion is murder.  It has nothing to do with a woman's choice to do anything.  Women, or men, don't have the right to choose to murder someone.

Murder is a legal term.

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#13 : February 05, 2011, 12:01:47 AM

Man, I knew we had a pack of fools posting on this board but along comes Durango 95 and takes the entire cake.  I have 2 little ones and can't imagine where I would be had me and my wife decided to murder them.  Yet, the Supreme Court has decided and we all must stand by their decision.  Liberals screamed from the rafters when GWB 1st campaigned that he would overturn Roe v. Wade (even though he said he wouldn't).  He served 2 terms and yet abortion is still legal.  Al Gore said abortion is "saving women's lives!".  It's not saving women's lives.  It's making sluts' lives more convenient.

BTW, Norma McCorvey now regrets her abortion and opposes abortion.  I do understand that you liberals will need to Google that name.

Bottom line, it's legal to kill all the babies you want,  But DON'T ASK THE REST OF US TO PAY FOR IT, you weak liberals.

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#14 : February 05, 2011, 12:07:16 AM

That's the core of the abortion argument.. pro-choicers do not consider the fetus to be alive while pro-lifers do consider the fetus alive. In other words if the fetus is alive the woman has a "right" to choose. If the fetus is alive, the woman doesnt have a right to destroy the life.

But abortion really is not the issue here. Planned Parenthood is advising pimps and minors on how to break the law. Think about it, if you have a daughter and she's 13 and got pregnant by some older man, wouldnt you think as the parent have a right to know what's going on? Well Planned Parenthood would rather give your daughter an abortion and advise her what to say and do so that you dont have to be informed. How can ANY parent (pro-life or pro-choice) not be upset at that?
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