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With no McCoy and no Price, our line actually looked really good the last three games with Okam, Woods, Miller, and Magee. We obviously still lacked a pass rushing RE, but those four guys did a good job of locking down the middle and left side. I think they are all solid keepers.
Quote from: ryan24 on February 15, 2011, 05:21:14 PMMiller, Price, McCoy are the keepers. Everyone else is fighting for a job. One must consider how bad the Bucs DL was last season on the perimeter. The only reason that those trying can only definitively eliminate one players....Kyle Moore...from the roster speaks to the fact that these guys are all marginal NFL players who should be backups, rotational guys and possibly situational players at best. You're basically comparing poo to poo...or mediocre to mediocre.Looking at the statistics from football outsiders, the center of our defensive line is just about the softest in the NFL. We should call our defensive tackles "chewy" and "nougat."
Miller, Price, McCoy are the keepers. Everyone else is fighting for a job. One must consider how bad the Bucs DL was last season on the perimeter. The only reason that those trying can only definitively eliminate one players....Kyle Moore...from the roster speaks to the fact that these guys are all marginal NFL players who should be backups, rotational guys and possibly situational players at best. You're basically comparing poo to poo...or mediocre to mediocre.
White is old and was never more than average. He's gone.
Price at UT, Okam at NT, McCoy at LDE.... Quinn (Am I allowed to dream?) at RDE..... ... Bennett, Miller, Woods, McGee as backups.... hmmm...
Quote from: LABuc on February 16, 2011, 01:37:25 AMPrice at UT, Okam at NT, McCoy at LDE.... Quinn (Am I allowed to dream?) at RDE..... ... Bennett, Miller, Woods, McGee as backups.... hmmm...I really think we might be best with Price at UT and McCoy at LE, but after drafting McCoy so high and giving him such a huge contract, I'll be very surprised (and impressed) if Rah and Dom have the balls to admit Price is the better UT and actually move McCoy to LE. In all honesty though if you forget about where folks were drafted and the size of contracts....McCoy's longer leaner frame and the way he plays the game could make him a dominant LE, while Price is 10x better at getting immediate penetration up the middle. The problem is in real life we can't just forget about where they were drafted and the size of their contract. If McCoy was really moved to LE, Rah and Dom would catch all kinds of hell from the sports writers, the fans, and the owners. As far as Okam at NT, I'm not sure if he is the best, but with him, Woods, and Miller all competing for that spot I am confident whichever one wins will be a solid starting nose tackle for us. I'd like Okam to win though, because he has the highest ceiling with the most potential.
Okam is an Under-tackle guys. Played three-technique for us. Didn't play the nose in the 3-4 or 3-3-5
What are we basing the claim that Price is a better UT than McCoy on? And why does anybody think that McCoy would be a better DE than DT? Just want to know, because Price hardly played at all last season, and McCoy was the only DT on the roster that got a consistent push up the middle. Gerald McCoy will be a great UT/3-tech in the NFL. Notice I said great. Not good, GREAT! Mark my words, he has all the tools you need for it, and if you didn't see that last season, you have blinders on. No way is he a DE. That's asinine. Also, no way should Roy Miller or Frank Okam be considered to start over Brian Price at NT. Miller got manhandled for most of the 2010 season, and Okam only played well in one game. That doesn't hand you the keys to the castle in my book. This whole notion that you need some big, beefy NT is old school. If Price and McCoy have similar playing styles, then that's still 2 guys that need to be blocked. Both have good motors and both are underrated run defenders. We will be fine lining them up next to one another.