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« #135 : April 28, 2011, 03:56:21 PM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/national_gop_primary_poll_trump_19_romney_17_huckabee_15

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-08-06-poll_N.htm

The survey, taken Friday through Sunday, puts Clinton at 48% — up 8 percentage points from three weeks ago — and Obama at 26%, down 2 points. Among Democrats and independents who "lean" Democratic, former North Carolina senator John Edwards is at 12%.

The 22-point gap between the two leaders is nearly double the margin found in the July 12-15 poll.




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« #136 : April 28, 2011, 04:54:00 PM »

What would Clinton have to gain by fabricating WMD claims to get Iraq to agree to inspections? Nada.
Just to clarify - Clinton actually launched attacks in Iraq before Bush was even Pres.  Why?  Oh, WMD.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

December 16, 1998
Web posted at: 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.

The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.

"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said.

Operation Desert Fox, a strong, sustained series of attacks, will be carried out over several days by U.S. and British forces, Clinton said.


You're right. Clinton and Bush did the exact same thing, and none of the intel on Iraq changed one bit from 1998 to 2003. Sounds perfectly logical.  ::)


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« #137 : April 28, 2011, 06:06:24 PM »

What would Clinton have to gain by fabricating WMD claims to get Iraq to agree to inspections? Nada.
Just to clarify - Clinton actually launched attacks in Iraq before Bush was even Pres.  Why?  Oh, WMD.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

December 16, 1998
Web posted at: 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.

The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.

"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," Clinton said.

Operation Desert Fox, a strong, sustained series of attacks, will be carried out over several days by U.S. and British forces, Clinton said.


You're right. Clinton and Bush did the exact same thing, and none of the intel on Iraq changed one bit from 1998 to 2003. Sounds perfectly logical.  ::)

If one were to offer an opinion, and believe the CIA, British and Israeli intelligence - the intelligence didn't change significantly. So - perhaps you know - were trusted intelligence sources all lying?  Maybe you know that Kurds and iranians were killed by WMD.  I just hadn't heard that.

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« #138 : April 28, 2011, 11:46:41 PM »

But to equate a government willing to kill its own citizens in the name of war strategy to nutjobs is to deny that Operation Northwoods took place.

No it doesn't. I simply implied that those who believe 911 was an inside job might be nutjobs based on the "evidence" they have presented. The evidence presented for Operation Northwood is completely different.

I have seen some nutjobs trying to argue 911 was an inside job. But I've also heard/seen some very credible people give their take on things. AE911 has some of those people and so does Pilots for 911 Truth. Lots of former government and military folks have spoken out, too.

Charlie Sheen spoke out as well.      ;)

Yep, Thought that was a good thing at the time. Now? Not so much.


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« #140 : May 05, 2011, 06:50:54 PM »


THE DEBUNK
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/
Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
By Jana Winter
Published April 29, 2011


The White House has released President Obama's long-form birth certificate, saying the document is "proof positive" the president was born in Hawaii.
It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.
But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.
“You should not be so su**CENSORED**ious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”
Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.
“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.
“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.



THE DEBUNK OF THE DEBUNK



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« #141 : May 06, 2011, 08:38:16 PM »

can't believe no one has a comment on the adobe illustrator test.  this is a huge smoking gun but the MSM will ignore it of coarse.


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« #142 : May 06, 2011, 11:31:00 PM »

can't believe no one has a comment on the adobe illustrator test.  this is a huge smoking gun but the MSM will ignore it of coarse.

Because, as one comments has pointed out in the comments section, there are legitimate reasons as to why that document might have been tampered with: Darkening the parts that were too light to read is one.

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« #143 : May 07, 2011, 05:14:05 AM »

He offered this document as proof of his legitimacy to hold the office but the document has clearly been altered/compromised.  We don't know what the original document looked like.  at the very least this deserves some attention.


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« #144 : May 07, 2011, 11:42:35 AM »

He offered this document as proof of his legitimacy to hold the office but the document has clearly been altered/compromised.  We don't know what the original document looked like.  at the very least this deserves some attention.

It might have gotten more attention if the Osama think hadn't happened. Great timing!

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« #145 : May 08, 2011, 06:02:42 PM »

He offered this document as proof of his legitimacy to hold the office but the document has clearly been altered/compromised.  We don't know what the original document looked like.  at the very least this deserves some attention.

So whoever supposedly altered it misspelled "none" and had to go back and add the 'e' ... misspelled "Barack" and had to go back and add the 'r'? ... It deserves what little attention it's getting right now.

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« #146 : May 09, 2011, 04:48:52 PM »

whoever did alter it wasn't too bright but that doesn't change the fact that the official long form birth certificate posted on the white house website has been compromised via Adobe Illustrator. It's worthless as proof. 


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« #147 : May 09, 2011, 08:04:50 PM »

whoever did alter it wasn't too bright but that doesn't change the fact that the official long form birth certificate posted on the white house website has been compromised via Adobe Illustrator. It's worthless as proof.

Or it wasn't altered and the scanning and re-scanning of it gave it those funky codes .... Again, if I'm reading things correctly, if you ascribe to the fake theory, whoever did it added the "e" on none and the "r" in Barack at a different time, among others ... How much sense does that make?

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« #148 : May 16, 2011, 02:25:17 PM »

Thank God that clown bowed out - he was going to make the election look like the California Governor's race a few years back. 


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