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: April 03, 2011, 08:21:03 AM

I know McCoy snd Price didnt show much, but I'd rather have had traded 1st and 2nd's for SUH!!!!!




Furthermore, I was one that was so on the Eric Berry band wagon, now with Talib issue go figure......



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#1 : April 03, 2011, 08:43:35 AM

cool story bro!



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#2 : April 03, 2011, 08:48:25 AM

The only thing I would have changed in regards to the 2010 draft is the selection of Brent Bowden... that's it.


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#3 : April 03, 2011, 10:39:02 AM

Bucs didn't have the courage to move up one spot for  the a future HOFer.  Instead they let Det decide their future.  They chose a guy who can't out bench QBs and favorite movie is the Little Mermaid.  They blew it big time.

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#4 : April 03, 2011, 10:40:18 AM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#5 : April 03, 2011, 10:44:25 AM

Trade the #3 overall to move down about 10 slots.   Trade Freeman.  Draft Tebow.


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#6 : April 03, 2011, 11:17:05 AM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

Who knows.  But they didn't even try.  Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s.  He's well worth that. IMO .   Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.

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#7 : April 03, 2011, 11:24:39 AM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

Who knows.  But they didn't even try.  Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s.  He's well worth that. IMO .   Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.

Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them?  Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.

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#8 : April 03, 2011, 11:30:52 AM

Drafted Eric Berry over Geraldine McCoy and Lamar Houston over Brian Price.


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#9 : April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

Who knows.  But they didn't even try.  Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s.  He's well worth that. IMO .   Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.

Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them?  Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.

Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also.  He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past).  To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly.  All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.

I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms.  When was the last Suh type player that came out?  It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White.  We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. 

Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.

This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... 

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#10 : April 03, 2011, 12:26:11 PM

The only picks I would of changed is Harvey for Bowden and Selvie for Lorig

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#11 : April 03, 2011, 01:25:21 PM

Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also.  He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past).  To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly.  All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.

I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms.  When was the last Suh type player that came out?  It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White.  We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. 

Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.

This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...
Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#12 : April 03, 2011, 01:35:52 PM

Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also.  He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past).  To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly.  All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.

I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms.  When was the last Suh type player that came out?  It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White.  We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. 

Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.

This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...
Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?

I said STL as well...who needed a QB, who would likely be there @ #3.  If we traded with STL they get #3 and the 3rd pic of rd2, and save themselves about 12 million in signing Bradford.  If we took Suh @1, Det. would have taken Okung @ 2, maybe McCoy.


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#13 : April 03, 2011, 02:06:26 PM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

Who knows.  But they didn't even try.  Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s.  He's well worth that. IMO .   Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.

Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them?  Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.

Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also.  He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past).  To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly.  All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.

I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms.  When was the last Suh type player that came out?  It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White.  We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. 

Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.

This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...

Get back to us in a few years when we really see how Suh, GMac and Price turn out. I think most NFL fans realize you don't judge a draft after one year.

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#14 : April 03, 2011, 02:16:11 PM

Who says Detroit was willing to move down?

Who knows.  But they didn't even try.  Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s.  He's well worth that. IMO .   Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.

Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them?  Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.

Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also.  He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past).  To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly.  All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.

I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms.  When was the last Suh type player that came out?  It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White.  We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. 

Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.

This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...

Get back to us in a few years when we really see how Suh, GMac and Price turn out. I think most NFL fans realize you don't judge a draft after one year.

One thing is clear after 1 year...Suh is who everyone thought he would be...a truly dominant NFL DT.  He was the best DT (1st team all pro / more sacks than any other DT) in the NFL last year...as a rookie...I thought and still think his ceiling is much much higher than McCoy or Price
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