Enter your username and password below to sign in to your PewterReport account.
x close
You were simply too smart for me.
FRG is the most logical poster on this board. You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.
Who says Detroit was willing to move down?
Quote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 10:40:18 AMWho says Detroit was willing to move down?Who knows. But they didn't even try. Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s. He's well worth that. IMO . Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.
Quote from: LoganBucs37 on April 03, 2011, 11:17:05 AMQuote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 10:40:18 AMWho says Detroit was willing to move down?Who knows. But they didn't even try. Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s. He's well worth that. IMO . Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them? Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.
Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...
Quote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AMLast I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?
Quote from: ras01 on April 03, 2011, 11:24:39 AMQuote from: LoganBucs37 on April 03, 2011, 11:17:05 AMQuote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 10:40:18 AMWho says Detroit was willing to move down?Who knows. But they didn't even try. Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s. He's well worth that. IMO . Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them? Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...
Quote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AMQuote from: ras01 on April 03, 2011, 11:24:39 AMQuote from: LoganBucs37 on April 03, 2011, 11:17:05 AMQuote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 10:40:18 AMWho says Detroit was willing to move down?Who knows. But they didn't even try. Bet Det would have taken two 1s and two 2s. He's well worth that. IMO . Most everyone knew Suh was the real deal.Oh crap, I did not know we had the GM for Detroit on a Bucs message board. Stop speculating, also that 10 sacks SUH got Detroit, how did it help them? Last I checked they were watching the playoffs same as the Bucs were.Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... Get back to us in a few years when we really see how Suh, GMac and Price turn out. I think most NFL fans realize you don't judge a draft after one year.