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Quote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 04:51:56 PMThe Bucs sure weren't going to let anything get between them and Freeman.Ya, only 16 other teams picked before them.
The Bucs sure weren't going to let anything get between them and Freeman.
Suh was probably the right decision for the Lions although it cost them with their QB. He needs protection badddllyyy. Thats what they will probably address this draft.
He's simply bigger.
Quote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 01:35:52 PMQuote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 01:25:21 PMQuote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AMLast I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?I said STL as well...who needed a QB, who would likely be there @ #3. If we traded with STL they get #3 and the 3rd pic of rd2, and save themselves about 12 million in signing Bradford. If we took Suh @1, Det. would have taken Okung @ 2, maybe McCoy.But then maybe since Detroit can't get Suh at #2 and they don't need a QB they allow Washington to trade up and get Bradford and St. Louis doesn't get their franchise QB at #3. Generally, when teams have franchise-changing players in front of them, they don't leave anything to chance. The Bucs sure weren't going to let anything get between them and Freeman.
Quote from: Feel Real Good on April 03, 2011, 01:25:21 PMQuote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AMLast I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?I said STL as well...who needed a QB, who would likely be there @ #3. If we traded with STL they get #3 and the 3rd pic of rd2, and save themselves about 12 million in signing Bradford. If we took Suh @1, Det. would have taken Okung @ 2, maybe McCoy.
Quote from: sg1977nc on April 03, 2011, 11:56:07 AMLast I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us... Why would Detroit forfeit the opportunities to select such dominating players?
Last I checked Detroit is picking like 12 or 13 this year...not #2...so they improved a lot also. He helped his team a lot more than McCoy and Price helped us...the big difference for us this year was that Freeman progressed more than anyone could have hoped for, we got absolute steals with Williams and Grimm, and got extremely lucky with Blount and Larsen, and the FA Dlineman (they played better than the starters we had in years past). To say that McCoy or any of our first 3 picks last year had a huge impact on our success is silly. All 3 ended up hurt for a good portion of the season...and we did fine without them.I agree with the OP that we should have traded up...there are Gmac's every year...they are the Marcell Darious, Fairelly, Dorsey type guys... some turn into Kevin Williams, some turn into Ryan Simms. When was the last Suh type player that came out? It has been 25 years since a Dlineman with as much talent and no character issues has come out...his name was Reggie White. We should have traded up with either Detroit or STL...even if it took our 1 and both 2's. Not saying Gmac can't become a solid / above average / occasional pro-bowl type player....but he will never be confused with Suh.This is the exact same thing we had 3-4 years ago with CJ / Joe Thomas...I was hoping we were going to trade up to get one...instead we got Gaines Adams, Sears, and Pascatelli...how did that work out for us...
Leftwich is tall, but Freeman is taller yet. Freeman is a freak of nature. Reminds me of this thing that Sinbad killed.
Quote from: SunnyD on April 03, 2011, 04:38:58 PMI'd definetely trade McCoy straight up for him, but I dont know how much else.Wow, you'd really be a great GM. You could offer McCoy straight up for Suh to the Lions. Good thinking. I'm sure they would accept that offer.
I'd definetely trade McCoy straight up for him, but I dont know how much else.