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#30 : April 03, 2011, 06:38:38 PM

Some guys play to win and play like men.   Others hit the turf to avoid contact even though they are twice the size of other men (then miss the playoffs by one game because of it).
So Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Matt Shaub are all guys that avoid contact. Look how long they have been playing.

Longevity + Effectiveness = Productive Career.  Careless + Dumb = Fast way out of the NFL.

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#31 : April 03, 2011, 06:39:07 PM

Some guys play to win and play like men.   Others hit the turf to avoid contact even though they are twice the size of other men (then miss the playoffs by one game because of it).

I agree Freeman plays to win while Dilfer was a bust. Sometimes its good to avoid contact. Especially if your the teams MVP like Freeman. Need to stay in the games to win. I also saw Freeman throw guys off of him when hed be running. Thats just sick. Never saw Dilfer do that.

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#32 : April 03, 2011, 06:45:01 PM

Dilfer made the playoffs in 1997 because of plays like that.   Had he hit the turf, they'd have missed the playoffs by one game like Freeman did.    Had Freeman plowed down a few Lions (god knows he's big enough to have done it), they would have beaten the Lions and been in the playoffs.

There are winners and there are losers.   Some QB's just weren't cut out to make it to the playoffs.


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#33 : April 03, 2011, 06:47:53 PM

Dilfer made the playoffs in 1997 because of plays like that.   Had he hit the turf, they'd have missed the playoffs by one game like Freeman did.    Had Freeman plowed down a few Lions (god knows he's big enough to have done it), they would have beaten the Lions and been in the playoffs.

There are winners and there are losers.   Some QB's just weren't cut out to make it to the playoffs.

How many come from behind wins did Dilfer have in his career? Im sure Freeman already has him beat in that category. All in his second year starting. Guy is a winner. Dilfer was a lot like Gruden. He needed a first class defense to win a championship. Freeman just needs the ball in his hands.

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#34 : April 03, 2011, 06:50:47 PM

Dilfer made the playoffs in 1997 because of plays like that.   Had he hit the turf, they'd have missed the playoffs by one game like Freeman did.    Had Freeman plowed down a few Lions (god knows he's big enough to have done it), they would have beaten the Lions and been in the playoffs.

There are winners and there are losers.   Some QB's just weren't cut out to make it to the playoffs.

We lost the Detroit game due to a lapse in judgment by Morris. Instead of going for the touchdown to clinch the game, we settled on a field goal. Freeman and the offense were not the issue that game. Freeman went 21 for 32 with 256 yards and a touchdown. Freeman was just fine in that game and I feel like Raheem put too much faith in the defense (which was being destroyed that game by CJ and whatever QB it was). That game is to blame on Defense and Raheem.

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#35 : April 03, 2011, 07:04:53 PM

Dilfer made the playoffs in 1997 because of plays like that.   Had he hit the turf, they'd have missed the playoffs by one game like Freeman did.    Had Freeman plowed down a few Lions (god knows he's big enough to have done it), they would have beaten the Lions and been in the playoffs.

There are winners and there are losers.   Some QB's just weren't cut out to make it to the playoffs.

We lost the Detroit game due to a lapse in judgment by Morris. Instead of going for the touchdown to clinch the game, we settled on a field goal. Freeman and the offense were not the issue that game. Freeman went 21 for 32 with 256 yards and a touchdown. Freeman was just fine in that game and I feel like Raheem put too much faith in the defense (which was being destroyed that game by CJ and whatever QB it was). That game is to blame on Defense and Raheem.

I see what your saying. However that penalty really set them back. Going for it on 4th and 16 or whatever it was is a tough decision. Remember we are playing to win here. The defense had been playing fine in that 4th quarter. They just got lit up after that. So I can see why Raheem wanted to trust them and not gamble on a 4th down. In those situations your defense is supposed to step up. They didnt like they were supposed to. I think our defense will be better next year. They really need a pass rush in the worst way.

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#36 : April 03, 2011, 07:24:21 PM

Dilfer made the playoffs in 1997 because of plays like that.   Had he hit the turf, they'd have missed the playoffs by one game like Freeman did.    Had Freeman plowed down a few Lions (god knows he's big enough to have done it), they would have beaten the Lions and been in the playoffs.

There are winners and there are losers.   Some QB's just weren't cut out to make it to the playoffs.

How many come from behind wins did Dilfer have in his career? Im sure Freeman already has him beat in that category. All in his second year starting. Guy is a winner. Dilfer was a lot like Gruden. He needed a first class defense to win a championship. Freeman just needs the ball in his hands.

I'm pretty sure they tell qb's to slide at the end of a run to protect themselves because they are the most important player on the field. Lets see who has more rushing yards at the end of their career: Dilfer or Freeman. Oh, and Freeman is already over half way there after just year two. Another year like last and he would have caught up

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#37 : April 03, 2011, 08:34:09 PM

We lost the Detroit game due to a lapse in judgment by Morris.


Yes, that's true.   But Freeman already knows by now that Morris is not head coaching material.   So Free should have gone out of his way to lock down that game without any calls by the head coach being needed that may affect the outcome of the game negatively.   


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#38 : April 03, 2011, 11:34:30 PM

We lost the Detroit game due to a lapse in judgment by Morris.


Yes, that's true.   But Freeman already knows by now that Morris is not head coaching material.   So Free should have gone out of his way to lock down that game without any calls by the head coach being needed that may affect the outcome of the game negatively.

If any player thought that about Raheem they would give up on him, you know like the Broncos did McDaniel. This team plays hard for raheem they believe in him and show it in games. You just hate the fact that he is making people forget a coach you think is better. Tough luck guy your coach is gone Morris will have a job with the Bucs for Multi years during 2011. You can keep bashing this while they keep winning and most likely get some SB rings.

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#39 : April 03, 2011, 11:51:07 PM

Chills man. Chills

Getting pumped up at 9:38

Best QB play I've ever seen in Tampa Bay

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#40 : April 03, 2011, 11:54:00 PM

Wouldnt mind seeing a highlight of Freeman jacking up that Falcon DB or Getting Malcolm Jenkins face.

Guy has got some serious fire and passion.

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#41 : April 03, 2011, 11:57:46 PM

Chills man. Chills

Getting pumped up at 9:38

Best QB play I've ever seen in Tampa Bay

No doubt..... and once our defense starts playing average, we're gonna make some noise.

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#42 : April 04, 2011, 12:05:16 AM

And again we regress to hate when we should be loving only. Some of you will never get it. There's gotta be some slam in the middle of what should only be a love thread. Some of you are like the guy who slams his boss in an email, finds out the boss intercepted the email and then wonders why he got fired.
Joey Galloway was the man. We loved him. He's gone now. We love these guys. But you can't assume any of them will play five years, let alone 10. We HOPE and that's it. If it happens, we all rejoice. But Dungy has nothing to do with this team. He didn't build enough. Had he built enough, we wouldn't have had to go out and get Gruden to finish the job for him. Had Gruden built enough, he'd still be here.
It's Raheem's game and hate doesn't increase love. Hate just drives down fellow fan morale and the number of people sitting next to you at RayJay.
Thanks for the vid, Hate. Great stuff.

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#43 : April 04, 2011, 01:21:40 AM

I dont think you can make conclusions on the basis of one season, especially against sub-par competition.

There was one season that was horrifically bad (2009) and one season that showed promise (2010).

Next season (whenever that might be) will break the tie.

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#44 : April 04, 2011, 01:49:58 AM

I dont think you can make conclusions on the basis of one season, especially against sub-par competition.

There was one season that was horrifically bad (2009) and one season that showed promise (2010).

Next season (whenever that might be) will break the tie.

coming from the person who said you play the schedule you are giving and you didn't predict this team to have more then 4 wins when he knew the schedule..... You can make plenty of conclusions on one season. We went 10-6 with 4 of those losses by less then 7 points. Our team was starting to look really good and to think differently you are an obvious hater of this regime.
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