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: April 08, 2011, 05:53:41 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/08/dem_congressman_to_veteran_at_town_hall_time_to_sit_down.html

That veteran should know better than to think that that congressman shoudl have to answer his questions.

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#1 : April 08, 2011, 06:10:04 PM

I have an idea. To quote the movie Casino " A lot of problems are fixed in the desert". Get rid of 99.9999999999% of politicians in DC.

Ryan Kerrigan for 2011 Please!!!

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#2 : April 08, 2011, 06:11:29 PM

This is why this crap 2 party system doesn't work - because the players (policy makers) lack the ability to remove "self" from the situation.  We need better "leaders".  This guy belongs as a grocery store manager.


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#3 : April 08, 2011, 06:19:41 PM

There is a pretty good argument to replace one Congressman to be made. 

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#4 : April 08, 2011, 06:26:46 PM

He's a vet. He should be perfectly used to being told to sit down and shut up. I'm sure he's been told that a few times in his military career, including basic training.

Any ex-military that plays the "vet card" is a weakling, in my opinion.

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#5 : April 08, 2011, 07:29:23 PM

The vet part was a throw in - the conduct of the Congressman was ill thought.  He will pay a price.  Insofar as either side 'using' the armed services - that is stupid - the kind of things voters remember.  The separate bill offered to assure the continuation of pay was there - and could still be had - it should be had. 

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#6 : April 08, 2011, 08:14:04 PM

This video was posted by a conservative website called "retirejimmoran.com" which has a whole slew of videos where they have planted people in townhall meetings to disrupt them, so it's probably safe to assume that his remarks were meant to be caustic and to get a rise out of the Congressman. Not to mention, the veteran in the video is scheduled to be on Fox News next week. Veteran's are just as partisan as civilians. The fact that he served doesn't automatically put the Congressman in the wrong for addressing him that way. That being said, a bit more discretion on the part of Jim Moran would have probably been wise.


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#7 : April 08, 2011, 08:37:43 PM

well stated (again).

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#8 : April 08, 2011, 08:52:09 PM

He's a vet. He should be perfectly used to being told to sit down and shut up. I'm sure he's been told that a few times in his military career, including basic training.

So his 27 years of service doesn't earn him the right to question his elected official??

I am not a vet, and if a Congressman-WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR ME- spoke to me that way, I would do everything in my power to make sure he gets FIRED.


Any ex-military that plays the "vet card" is a weakling, in my opinion.

yeah he looked like a "real weakling". Stating that he was a vet was merely presenting his credentials. He didn't ask or expect any special favors, just stated "as a 27 year Veteran" as background.

I don't get your disdain for Vets.


Our Soldiers will be paid. Our Soldiers are very well compensated and appreciated by the American people. We won't let them down.

Congress is saying otherwise.


Our Soldiers are very well compensated and appreciated by the American people. We won't let them down.

How is "WE"?

Last I checked there were no former male-nurses currently in Congress (there is one Gynecologist) So why the WE. You aren't holding up the budget, you aren't taking vacations in the middle of a crisis, and you sure don't have the ability to fix any of this mess.


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#9 : April 08, 2011, 08:56:30 PM

This video was posted by a conservative website called "retirejimmoran.com" which has a whole slew of videos where they have planted people in townhall meetings to disrupt them, so it's probably safe to assume that his remarks were meant to be caustic and to get a rise out of the Congressman. Not to mention, the veteran in the video is scheduled to be on Fox News next week. Veteran's are just as partisan as civilians. The fact that he served doesn't automatically put the Congressman in the wrong for addressing him that way. That being said, a bit more discretion on the part of Jim Moran would have probably been wise.

While he might have been a plant, I didn't take his comments as personally caustic. They seem more aimed at Congress in general like "I watched CPAN and both sides of the aisle did nothing but blame the other...". Everything the Vet said I absolutely agree with.


Time to THROW THEM ALL OUT!!


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#10 : April 08, 2011, 09:09:46 PM

This video was posted by a conservative website called "retirejimmoran.com" which has a whole slew of videos where they have planted people in townhall meetings to disrupt them, so it's probably safe to assume that his remarks were meant to be caustic and to get a rise out of the Congressman. Not to mention, the veteran in the video is scheduled to be on Fox News next week. Veteran's are just as partisan as civilians. The fact that he served doesn't automatically put the Congressman in the wrong for addressing him that way. That being said, a bit more discretion on the part of Jim Moran would have probably been wise.

While he might have been a plant, I didn't take his comments as personally caustic. They seem more aimed at Congress in general like "I watched CPAN and both sides of the aisle did nothing but blame the other...". Everything the Vet said I absolutely agree with.


Time to THROW THEM ALL OUT!!

All due respect to the man for his service. But the Congressman did allow him to complete his question, which was a quite lengthy one, I might add. It wasn't until he interrupted the answer that the Congressman lost his composure. It begs the question, how much floor time should this gentleman been given? And if it was an honest question, why interrupt the answer? It is entirely possible that the Congressman knew who this man was there on behalf of, and that affected his response to him.

The Congressman's answer was 100% true, BTW. He is not a member of the majority party. He does not decide when they are or are not in session, and him being at a town hall rather than an empty chamber of Congress does seem to be a better use of his time.


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#11 : April 08, 2011, 09:21:16 PM

This video was posted by a conservative website called "retirejimmoran.com" which has a whole slew of videos where they have planted people in townhall meetings to disrupt them, so it's probably safe to assume that his remarks were meant to be caustic and to get a rise out of the Congressman. Not to mention, the veteran in the video is scheduled to be on Fox News next week. Veteran's are just as partisan as civilians. The fact that he served doesn't automatically put the Congressman in the wrong for addressing him that way. That being said, a bit more discretion on the part of Jim Moran would have probably been wise.

While he might have been a plant, I didn't take his comments as personally caustic. They seem more aimed at Congress in general like "I watched CPAN and both sides of the aisle did nothing but blame the other...". Everything the Vet said I absolutely agree with.


Time to THROW THEM ALL OUT!!

All due respect to the man for his service. But the Congressman did allow him to complete his question, which was a quite lengthy one, I might add. It wasn't until he interrupted the answer that the Congressman lost his composure. It begs the question, how much floor time should this gentleman been given? And if it was an honest question, why interrupt the answer? It is entirely possible that the Congressman knew who this man was there on behalf of, and that affected his response to him.

The jackwagon Congressman insulted him and called his question a "caustic assault". The Congressman works FOR US. We pay his over exuberant salary, we elected him. So HE needs to show respect to the Voter.

That's part of the problem. These jackwagon Congressmen (on both sides of the aisle) think they are somehow better than us and above us. They act like we are too stupid to understand how their robbing us blind is really helping us.


The Congressman's answer was 100% true, BTW. He is not a member of the majority party. He does not decide when they are or are not in session, and him being at a town hall rather than an empty chamber of Congress does seem to be a better use of his time.


My only question would be; "Mr. Moran, did you voice any opposition to adjournment on the House Floor? Did you make ANY attempt to try to persuade members to NOT go on vacation?"

I gotta feeling the answer would be either "no" or "well, I wasn't there, I had already left early". In either case=FAIL


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#12 : April 08, 2011, 10:12:53 PM

The jackwagon Congressman insulted him and called his question a "caustic assault". The Congressman works FOR US. We pay his over exuberant salary, we elected him. So HE needs to show respect to the Voter.

That's part of the problem. These jackwagon Congressmen (on both sides of the aisle) think they are somehow better than us and above us. They act like we are too stupid to understand how their robbing us blind is really helping us.

The Congressman works for everyone in that room, not just the soldier, which is why I asked the poignant question, how much floor time should this gentleman been given? While a agree that the Congressman's loss of composure was ill advised, we only see what this particular website wanted us to see. There may have been more to this. By the amount of audience applause during the Congressman's outburst, I can only assume that for whatever reason, the audience felt that the soldier had been out of line as well.

My only question would be; "Mr. Moran, did you voice any opposition to adjournment on the House Floor? Did you make ANY attempt to try to persuade members to NOT go on vacation?"

I gotta feeling the answer would be either "no" or "well, I wasn't there, I had already left early". In either case=FAIL

A very valid point.


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#13 : April 09, 2011, 07:44:59 AM


How is "WE"?


You don't understand the power of all the veteran organizations in the United States.

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#14 : April 09, 2011, 08:11:31 AM



The Congressman works for everyone in that room, not just the soldier, which is why I asked the poignant question, how much floor time should this gentleman been given?

Once again, outstanding point.  I hate it when our vets come across as whining.
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