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: April 09, 2011, 06:28:00 AM

Lets say for argument sake Bucs trade down because DE they really want is gone, if we obtain another 2nd and can snag a 3rd rounder ftom 49ers for JJ how would your first 3 rounds look?

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#1 : April 09, 2011, 08:03:28 AM

Until a CBA is signed, there can be no trading of players, only picks.

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#2 : April 09, 2011, 08:58:16 PM

Bucs would have to trade down to 30-32 to pick up a 2nd. Basically trading to the top of the second, bottom of first 10+ spots to pick a low second, high third type a pick value. Unless there's a bunch of guys falling, seems too far to trade back.



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#3 : April 10, 2011, 11:48:48 AM

tatmanfish,

You are correct. The closest thing we could do is get Denver's two 2nd round picks (36th pick and 46th pick which in total are worth 540+440=980) in return for our 1st round pick (850 points) and our 4th round pick this year and next year.(62 pts+60 or so next year) (total of 976).. No interest in that.. 

WE NEED AN IMPACT DEFENSIVE END... In 2nd round, we are basically left with Bailey and an injured Romeus or a specialist.  Sheard will be LONNNGGGG gone by our 2nd round pick.  And if we want an impact DE, we NEED TO TRADE UP...  Dolphins dont have a 2nd round pick so they would gladly slide down to our spot for a 2nd as they likely targeting QB or RB. That is expensive for us though 850+390= 1,240 points for 1050 points. 190 point gap so Miami would need to throw in their 3rd which is worth 195 points.  I dont love that trade as I think there is a big falloff into the 3rd round, but if Kerrigan or Jordan are still available I would pull the trigger.  Id rather give up our 1st, 3rd, and 5th (850+170+31=1051) for Miami's 15th pick (1050 points).

More likely scenario to give us a realistic shot at Jordan or Kerrigan is trading up to 11 or 12 by using our 2nd round pick. I dont see Houston trading out of 11 as they need an elite pash rusher or CB and both will be gone by 20 unless they want to gamble with Jimmy Smith at 20. I think Vikings would be willing to trade down if they are targeting QB (and Newton and Gabbert are off the board), OT (and Tyron Smith is off the board) or CB (and Peterson and Amukamara are off the board) rather than DE. For Vikings 12th pick, we would get their 5th rounder back as well so would be our 1st and 2nd rounder for their 1st and 5th rounder.

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#4 : April 10, 2011, 12:11:26 PM

I think Minnesota, Detroit and Miami are all possible trade partners if we are going to try to get in front of Jacsonville for Kerrigan (it that is what the FO is thinking). I would like to make that trade up with Miami as I don't think Minnesota, Detroit or the Rams will go with a DE as their #1 pick. If Minnesota is thinking QB, they can trade back and still get Ponder (whom I think they are targeting) at #20. I think Detroit is going for an offensive tackle and whether they are open to trade or not depends on if there is a run on offensive tackles before they are on the clock. I think the Rams are thinking WR or DT, but taking a DE is definitely a possibility with them.

However, a trade with Minnesota would definitely cost us our 2nd while a trade with Miami would only cost us our 3rd.  If it were me, I would part with a 3 for Kerrigan, not sure that I would pay an additional 2.

Not sure who might want to trade up to #20, but I unless we can get someone we really want by trading with Miami, I would rather take my chances at #20 and see what's left or entertain a offer to trade down and pick up an extra choice or two.

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