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#75 : April 16, 2011, 10:38:32 PM


What is your suggestion, then? Only check the people wearing turbans? Don't you suppose that after a while they'll catch on and start sending people that no-one would suspect?

Don't be stupid - start with that as a premise and move forward cautiously.  And if you find Morgan agreeing with you, review your position quickly.

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#76 : April 16, 2011, 10:46:14 PM


What is your suggestion, then? Only check the people wearing turbans? Don't you suppose that after a while they'll catch on and start sending people that no-one would suspect?

Don't be stupid - start with that as a premise and move forward cautiously.  And if you find Morgan agreeing with you, review your position quickly.

You miss the point entirely. Any system that follows a specific pattern can be easily attacked. A degree of randomness gives those attacking the system more pause than a known pattern that can actually be used to their benefit.

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#77 : April 16, 2011, 11:21:53 PM

I would add that there is no point in trying to reinvent the wheel on this issue. That doesn't mean we can't be creative and innovate on how to tackle passenger screening. But the fact of the matter is that no matter what possible solutions conjured up, ideas for screening have to be tempered by real world economics. How much money is the TSA willing to spend to implement a program that will actually be effective?

No one can argue profiling is a sound, time tested method that has been used for decades (at least) and has been a proven effective tool in investigation. That too should be considered.

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#78 : April 17, 2011, 10:24:51 AM


What is your suggestion, then? Only check the people wearing turbans? Don't you suppose that after a while they'll catch on and start sending people that no-one would suspect?

Don't be stupid - start with that as a premise and move forward cautiously.  And if you find Morgan agreeing with you, review your position quickly.

You miss the point entirely. Any system that follows a specific pattern can be easily attacked. A degree of randomness gives those attacking the system more pause than a known pattern that can actually be used to their benefit.

Not at all.  I am all for the randomness - right up to the point of ridiculous.  In this case the child was checked via scan, parents offered a second scan - and then TSA felt the pat down was required.  I would offer anyone can see the point of stupidity.

Insofar as profiling - it is an assist to identification - and it does require that one not rely solely on the "characteristics" offered.  Otherwise as you note - the bad guys simply adapt.  Now - in the instant case - was she 6?  Was she traveling with family members?  Did the scan really inadequate to the point of requiring a pat down... I sure don't think so - you?

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