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: April 29, 2011, 01:00:11 AM

This guy has more red flags than anyone the Bucs drafted in recent memory in the first round.

This is not a safe pick at all. That's for sure. If he has a weakness in his arm and other teams exploit it...he's done. You can get away with all sorts of weaknesses at the lower levels in football. But in the pros, not so much. This is a bigger roll of the dice than Bowers would have been, A bigger problem is the drop off in production.

Either Dominik will look like a master with this pick or this will be his first major bust.

As far as compared to what other teams in the division did....I think the Bucs did the worst. Falcons and Saints mortgaged their future but got solid players that will produce. The Panthers are gambling with Cam Newton but how much worse could they be than last year? Us? We got a DE with countless red flags.

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#1 : April 29, 2011, 01:01:20 AM

Looks pretty bustacious to me.


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#2 : April 29, 2011, 01:03:54 AM

The production thing pretty much was when they changed schemes that didn't allow him to get after the QB like he did his JR year.

I'm worried though that'll he have fatigue concerns like he did in college and be gassed in the 4th QTR when we need to stop Brees/Newton/Ryan.

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#3 : April 29, 2011, 01:04:33 AM

I reserve my opinion for a few years.  Although, when we picked Freeman two years ago, I totally hated the pick.  This year, I thought for sure, we would take Cameron Jordan or perhaps Bowers, but I'm sure Dom and Rah have their reasons for choosing Clayborn over those other guys.

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#4 : April 29, 2011, 01:04:58 AM

"His arm will not limit him, he fits where we wanted him anyway" - Dom.

This space for rent....*sigh* I trusted you coach.

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#5 : April 29, 2011, 01:05:16 AM

What if Clayborn comes out roses with 7 sacks, and Julio and Ingram don;t do schidt?

I think Cam Jordan is studly...but we got what the biggest fans of the team want.  And I think Clayborn is tough as nails.


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#6 : April 29, 2011, 01:05:53 AM

I've stated my peace in other threads and taken heat for it. So be it. I don't like the pick on many levels. But I'm not putting it past Dom to do better in the coming rounds. It really doesn't matter which round you get the studs in as long as you get them. But of course history shows that it's tougher to get them later. I'd love to see a Mason Foster in Round 2 or a Dontay Moch at some point. Romeus is a popular pick with many posters and could be better than Clayborn. Kendricks could be a great long-term pick and I wouldn't be disappointed at all if Mikel Leshoure or Rodney Hudson winds up with the Bucs. Plenty of rounds to go.

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#7 : April 29, 2011, 01:07:01 AM

BF, I rarely disagree with you, but if he gets 7 sacks next year I'll be surprised and delighted. Anything above that on a regular basis and I'll be totally stunned. Thinking perennial 3-6 sack guy.

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#8 : April 29, 2011, 01:10:23 AM

This guy has more red flags than anyone the Bucs drafted in recent memory in the first round.

This is not a safe pick at all. That's for sure. If he has a weakness in his arm and other teams exploit it...he's done. You can get away with all sorts of weaknesses at the lower levels in football. But in the pros, not so much. This is a bigger roll of the dice than Bowers would have been, A bigger problem is the drop off in production.

Either Dominik will look like a master with this pick or this will be his first major bust.

As far as compared to what other teams in the division did....I think the Bucs did the worst. Falcons and Saints mortgaged their future but got solid players that will produce. The Panthers are gambling with Cam Newton but how much worse could they be than last year? Us? We got a DE with countless red flags.




Oh hell, I didn't know the draft was over already. I thought there was 6 more rounds and 7 more picks coming.


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#9 : April 29, 2011, 01:12:28 AM

This guy has more red flags than anyone the Bucs drafted in recent memory in the first round.

This is not a safe pick at all. That's for sure. If he has a weakness in his arm and other teams exploit it...he's done. You can get away with all sorts of weaknesses at the lower levels in football. But in the pros, not so much. This is a bigger roll of the dice than Bowers would have been, A bigger problem is the drop off in production.

Either Dominik will look like a master with this pick or this will be his first major bust.

As far as compared to what other teams in the division did....I think the Bucs did the worst. Falcons and Saints mortgaged their future but got solid players that will produce. The Panthers are gambling with Cam Newton but how much worse could they be than last year? Us? We got a DE with countless red flags.
Hmmmm. A classic case of Premature Ebustulation. He was drafted a little over two hours ago...

How do you know Clayborn is a bigger roll of the dice than Bowers, who has not yet been drafted?

Falcons spent four draft picks to flip their first-round draft pick in order to pick a raw, but physically talented #2 WR. How will he turn out? We don't know.

The Saints got a DE that they can sure put to use, but traded back into the first with their second-round pick and 2012 first-round pick to get the lowest-drafted RB in NFL history. They already have Pierre Thomas (who kept Mendenhall on the bench in college) and Chris Ivory. Seems like one of the many RBs that will be available throughout the draft might have been a good addition for the Saints RB crew (looks like Bush might be on the way out) and would have saved the Saints next year's first.

The Panthers almost had to go with Cam.

But all in all, we'll have to wait a while to see how this draft pans out. Sure the Saints and the Falcons were aggressive, but will their moving around pay off in the long run? I don't know. And I can't say how Clayborn with pay off for us, but I don't see him as having countless red flags. That's just an emotional overreaction to a guy you're not high on.

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#10 : April 29, 2011, 01:12:46 AM

well at least we set the bar low huh?

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#11 : April 29, 2011, 01:21:50 AM

well at least we set the bar low huh?

That's how its been since Gruden left. When he was here the bar was so high he couldnt possibly reach it.

Now the bar is set so low that RahDom can't possibly miss it.

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#12 : April 29, 2011, 01:24:01 AM

ROFLMAO. Great post, cyber. Bad news if it were limbo time!

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#13 : April 29, 2011, 01:26:08 AM

I love how people on this board know more about Erb's Palsy and Clayborn's limitations from it than the Buc's GM, Scouting department, Medical Dept., head coach, and 2 D-line coaches.

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#14 : April 29, 2011, 01:30:55 AM

ahahahahahahahahahaha

lolololololololol

*catches breath*

No but seriously, are you really calling him Dominik's first bust about 3 hours after he was drafted?


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