Teams hoping Tebow and Ponder pan out like Freeman

[Benchwarmer#1]

Funny how Gruden won a superbowl his first year with the Bucs.   Didn't take him much time, did it?

Gruden didn't win a SB. The team won it. An if I were to "blame" any one person for that SB win, it's Monty.


But back to topic "Javaray." 

I think Tebow will do well if he doesn't become too reliable on his run game and they get him more support. Sooner or later, he's going to get blindsided by a LB (they do take a QB running on them personally). I'm not one of those "but his arm-motion.. guys", worse problems have befallen other QB's. My first problem with him is his bible-thumping ways and how the team might take to it if it's just too overwhelming. I have a hard time hanging out with overly christian people, and I'm a Christian. It does get a bit annoying at times. It could easily blow up, or have a following, so 50-50 chance?

The other problem with him is obviously the running. Yeah, it's definitely a crappy problem for a defense, but it also exposes the QB's to more hard tackles. With that, the percentages of him being hurt go up greatly (I don't care who he is). In college the LB's and DL's aren't nearly as jacked up or getting PAID for laying Qb's out for that matter.

Ponder is ok. I haven't really watched a whole lot of tape on him to say otherwise.

[JavaRay]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

[anterrabae33]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

How many Super Bowls did Gruden win without Monte?

[JavaRay]

The premise was that Monte won that superbowl.   Obviously that's not the case since Monte didn't win a damn thing without Gruden.   I never said Monte wasn't part of it, but Monte-Dungy was a loser combination.   Monte-Gruden was a winner.

[anterrabae33]

Gruden is the equivalent of a closer in baseball.

[malemedic07]

I just hope Stafford turns out as good, hopefully by just staying healthy

[bashear]

I just hope Stafford turns out as good, hopefully by just staying healthy

I hope Stafford stays healthy, but causes his team to lose against the Bucs. After that, he can progress as he pleases.

[The Anti-Java]

I just hope Stafford turns out as good, hopefully by just staying healthy

I hope Stafford stays healthy, but causes his team to lose against the Bucs. After that, he can progress as he pleases.

Game 1........Going to be huge.  I am hoping for a good thumping on the Lions.  Just to set the tone for the year.

[tatmanfish]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

come the ...... on! how can this guy be allowed to continually troll like this? Dude was booted/suspended, then comes back as soon as its over on an old account to troll harder than ever.

[JavaRay]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

come the ...... on! how can this guy be allowed to continually troll like this? Dude was booted/suspended, then comes back as soon as its over on an old account to troll harder than ever.

If you consider saying Gruden was a key factor in the Bucs winning that superbowl to be trolling, you are clueless.

[tatmanfish]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

come the ...... on! how can this guy be allowed to continually troll like this? Dude was booted/suspended, then comes back as soon as its over on an old account to troll harder than ever.

If you consider saying Gruden was a key factor in the Bucs winning that superbowl to be trolling, you are clueless.

its the same tired old speiel and if you think no one notices, youre clueless as well. Cut the crap and contribute something already instead of the same tired crap that got you suspended.

[Boid Fink]

How many superbowls did Monte win without Gruden?

come the ...... on! how can this guy be allowed to continually troll like this? Dude was booted/suspended, then comes back as soon as its over on an old account to troll harder than ever.

If you consider saying Gruden was a key factor in the Bucs winning that superbowl to be trolling, you are clueless.

its the same tired old speiel and if you think no one notices, youre clueless as well. Cut the crap and contribute something already instead of the same tired crap that got you suspended.

Agreed.

This is what Java repeatedly posts, like some maniacal braying of a half dead sheep:

Gruden is the greatest coach.  Tebow is the man!  Better than Freeman even.  Raheem sucks.  Bucs got lucky last year.  Tebow sells tickets. Blount is a thug.  Ruud is the best defender the BUcs have.

That about sums it up.  This is all he posts.  Over and over and over and over.

[MiltonMack21]

LOL at Tebow. He won't even be starting for the Broncos.

[The Anti-Java]

LOL at Tebow. He won't even be starting for the Broncos.

He may be starting, but if he does, its going to be run run run.   Fox likes to pound it anyway, so that might work.

[Hate]

I'll call for the Broncos head coach to be fired.

who ya gonna call?