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Quote from: BuccaneersMagic1282 on July 28, 2011, 02:10:36 AM They focused their effort and resources into the draftBig deal. What team in the NFL doesn't do this every year? I can't remember any teams not taking their draft picks in any season.
They focused their effort and resources into the draft
Quote from: jerseybucsfan on July 28, 2011, 02:16:07 AMThis isn't MLB where you can ''overspend'' and either win or not win. The top salaried team will be only $13M above the lowest now. But you can do a lot with $13M if you are creative, hardworking. Or you can cop out and overpay guys you already know are mediocre. We know Trueblood is below average. We know Black is average. The Bucs had the resources to upgrade more than any other team, $15M more than the next nearest team. They are choosing not to and any reasonable fan has a right to be disappointed. If they miss the playoffs AGAIN, it will be because they chose not to complement the talent they already had with more talent.This isn't Madden, you just don't go out and pay a FA and have him step in and automatically improve the team. History has shown that most players regress after a big free agent deal. I agree Trueblood sucks, and James Lee is nothing to write home about. But the Bucs won't overpay for a RT just because they can. Just because the Bucs miss the playoffs, it isn't because they didn't spend big money in FA. It is because we are in a tough division with two Super Bowl caliber teams. We are still incredibly young team with upside. We aren't some FAs away from the Super Bowl and Dominik is smart enough to not stray from his plan because of one 10 win season. It isn't like our Super Bowl window is closing and we need to spend to try and keep it open as long as possible. The future is incredibly bright, yet many fans have a negative attitude because we won't freakin' go nuts in FA. I'm excited about Josh Freeman, Mike Williams, LeGarrette Blount, Arrelious Benn, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, etc. guys who have bright futures in this league, I won't get down because we aren't going after other team's trash.
This isn't MLB where you can ''overspend'' and either win or not win. The top salaried team will be only $13M above the lowest now. But you can do a lot with $13M if you are creative, hardworking. Or you can cop out and overpay guys you already know are mediocre. We know Trueblood is below average. We know Black is average. The Bucs had the resources to upgrade more than any other team, $15M more than the next nearest team. They are choosing not to and any reasonable fan has a right to be disappointed. If they miss the playoffs AGAIN, it will be because they chose not to complement the talent they already had with more talent.
Quote from: tatmanfish on July 28, 2011, 02:22:37 AMThey cant sign a single guy you listed yet. To think they havent contact any FAs is assinine. Theres around 1200 players being courted by 32 teams and we hear about 5-10 a day if we are lucky. Less than 40 guys have signed or agreed to terms(other than UDFA).Youre naive to think otherwise and rather arrogant to state you know better than a guy getting paid to do a job you cant get.All I can say, is I want you to man up and apologize to me when Friday and beyond rolls around and the Bucs do not sign a single free agent starter.... because I know it aint gonna happen.
They cant sign a single guy you listed yet. To think they havent contact any FAs is assinine. Theres around 1200 players being courted by 32 teams and we hear about 5-10 a day if we are lucky. Less than 40 guys have signed or agreed to terms(other than UDFA).Youre naive to think otherwise and rather arrogant to state you know better than a guy getting paid to do a job you cant get.
You were simply too smart for me.
Quote from: traew01 on July 28, 2011, 02:25:24 AMQuote from: tatmanfish on July 28, 2011, 02:22:37 AMThey cant sign a single guy you listed yet. To think they havent contact any FAs is assinine. Theres around 1200 players being courted by 32 teams and we hear about 5-10 a day if we are lucky. Less than 40 guys have signed or agreed to terms(other than UDFA).Youre naive to think otherwise and rather arrogant to state you know better than a guy getting paid to do a job you cant get.All I can say, is I want you to man up and apologize to me when Friday and beyond rolls around and the Bucs do not sign a single free agent starter.... because I know it aint gonna happen.and what if they do? will you admit you made assumptions, ranted in every thread like a child, and admit you were flat out wrong? Will you admit all your assumptions were wrong from not signing a single starter to not talking to any FAs?also, what do I have to apologize for? I stated facts and said your a couple days to early to even know if what your saying is even in the same area code a truth. Thats nothing to apologize for.
And you wonder why the stadium won't sell out? Its not because they arnt winning. Team posted a 10-6 record and still cant sell out a game.People arnt showing up because: 1. They think the team is a fluke. and 2. They are pissed off at the Glazers because they jacked up the prices in 2007 in some sections by as much as 30% and they dont seem to re-invest into the team. Ever since the Man U acquisition the Bucs have been the cheapest team in the league.
Quote from: BuccaneersMagic1282 on July 28, 2011, 02:25:44 AMQuote from: jerseybucsfan on July 28, 2011, 02:16:07 AMThis isn't MLB where you can ''overspend'' and either win or not win. The top salaried team will be only $13M above the lowest now. But you can do a lot with $13M if you are creative, hardworking. Or you can cop out and overpay guys you already know are mediocre. We know Trueblood is below average. We know Black is average. The Bucs had the resources to upgrade more than any other team, $15M more than the next nearest team. They are choosing not to and any reasonable fan has a right to be disappointed. If they miss the playoffs AGAIN, it will be because they chose not to complement the talent they already had with more talent.This isn't Madden, you just don't go out and pay a FA and have him step in and automatically improve the team. History has shown that most players regress after a big free agent deal. I agree Trueblood sucks, and James Lee is nothing to write home about. But the Bucs won't overpay for a RT just because they can. Just because the Bucs miss the playoffs, it isn't because they didn't spend big money in FA. It is because we are in a tough division with two Super Bowl caliber teams. We are still incredibly young team with upside. We aren't some FAs away from the Super Bowl and Dominik is smart enough to not stray from his plan because of one 10 win season. It isn't like our Super Bowl window is closing and we need to spend to try and keep it open as long as possible. The future is incredibly bright, yet many fans have a negative attitude because we won't freakin' go nuts in FA. I'm excited about Josh Freeman, Mike Williams, LeGarrette Blount, Arrelious Benn, Adrian Clayborn, Da'Quan Bowers, etc. guys who have bright futures in this league, I won't get down because we aren't going after other team's trash.Notice how you did not mention one offensive lineman. Or EJ Biggers. Or Myron Lewis. Why? Because our O Line is mediocre, and Biggers and Lewis are mediocre....and Barber is old as hell.There was a bunch of players in free agency that easily upgrade these positions...and yes, you have to pay some big money to get them. But there are very creative ways to do it while still setting up for the future...But you have to be willing to spend. And the Bucs and Glazers just will not do it. PERIOD.
I expect it adressed next year in the draft.
Quote from: BuccaneersMagic1282 on July 28, 2011, 02:45:25 AMI expect it adressed next year in the draft.Ya, wouldn't want to rush it and try to win this year. Wait until next year.
Quote from: JavaRay on July 28, 2011, 02:48:56 AMQuote from: BuccaneersMagic1282 on July 28, 2011, 02:45:25 AMI expect it adressed next year in the draft.Ya, wouldn't want to rush it and try to win this year. Wait until next year.JAvaRay...how dare you question the almighty Mark Dominic "blueprint"?