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#90 : July 29, 2011, 10:10:02 AM

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Great to see the Bucs resign @DavinJoseph75 the best lineman in the league.

These people are clueless.


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#91 : July 29, 2011, 10:12:41 AM

since some people here are slow......

19mil over 7 years equates to 2.7mil a year.

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#92 : July 29, 2011, 10:15:24 AM

since some people here are slow......

19mil over 7 years equates to 2.7mil a year.

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.

Well it doesn't mean he is playing at a pro bowl level. A lot of those incentives are how many games he plays, showing up to training camp, end of the year bonuses, and more things that he would come across not even trying. To earn the full 7.4 year avg he would probably need to play a pro bowl level throughout those 5 years. I don't think it was that bad. I thought we were actually going to end up giving him somewhere around 8.5 million since we have been overpaying for everybody else.

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#93 : July 29, 2011, 10:29:10 AM

since some people here are slow......

19mil over 7 years equates to 2.7mil a year.

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.

Well it doesn't mean he is playing at a pro bowl level. A lot of those incentives are how many games he plays, showing up to training camp, end of the year bonuses, and more things that he would come across not even trying. To earn the full 7.4 year avg he would probably need to play a pro bowl level throughout those 5 years. I don't think it was that bad. I thought we were actually going to end up giving him somewhere around 8.5 million since we have been overpaying for everybody else.
Well then why doesn't every team give every player contracts with max potential if the player plays at an elite level? Why not give Quincy Black a contract with DeMarcus Ware's incentives? If he doesn't play like DeMarcus Ware, he won't get paid like it.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#94 : July 29, 2011, 10:30:04 AM

Bucs agreed to terms with RG Davin Joseph on a multi-year contract.
Joseph broke the news on Twitter. Though opinions across the NFL seem mixed on Joseph, the Bucs know his potential as a mauling run blocker. They also were smart to slow-play his market; there were no other teams linked to him in reports all week. Joseph, 27, will return as the team's starting right guard. He is expected to flourish in new line coach Pat Morris' power-blocking scheme.


Source: Davin Joseph on Twitter Jul 28, 11:59 PM

LMAO, and people thought paying Doug Free $8M was too much.  Tampa gives a RG (that nobody else is bidding for) $7.5M.

This makes Michael Clayton's contract look smart.  Very disappointing move by Dominik.


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#95 : July 29, 2011, 10:31:19 AM

since some people here are slow......

19mil over 7 years equates to 2.7mil a year.

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.

Well it doesn't mean he is playing at a pro bowl level. A lot of those incentives are how many games he plays, showing up to training camp, end of the year bonuses, and more things that he would come across not even trying. To earn the full 7.4 year avg he would probably need to play a pro bowl level throughout those 5 years. I don't think it was that bad. I thought we were actually going to end up giving him somewhere around 8.5 million since we have been overpaying for everybody else.
Well then why doesn't every team give every player contracts with max potential if the player plays at an elite level? Why not give Quincy Black a contract with DeMarcus Ware's incentives? If he doesn't play like DeMarcus Ware, he won't get paid like it.

As long as Joseph is on the field most of his contract will be paid. Same with Demarcus Ware. Ware can earn usually around a million extra if he does play at a pro bowl level.

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#96 : July 29, 2011, 10:35:32 AM

since some people here are slow......

19mil over 7 years equates to 2.7mil a year.

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.

Well it doesn't mean he is playing at a pro bowl level. A lot of those incentives are how many games he plays, showing up to training camp, end of the year bonuses, and more things that he would come across not even trying. To earn the full 7.4 year avg he would probably need to play a pro bowl level throughout those 5 years. I don't think it was that bad. I thought we were actually going to end up giving him somewhere around 8.5 million since we have been overpaying for everybody else.
Well then why doesn't every team give every player contracts with max potential if the player plays at an elite level? Why not give Quincy Black a contract with DeMarcus Ware's incentives? If he doesn't play like DeMarcus Ware, he won't get paid like it.

As long as Joseph is on the field most of his contract will be paid. Same with Demarcus Ware. Ware can earn usually around a million extra if he does play at a pro bowl level.
And as long as Joseph is on the field, he'll be paid $500,000 less than what the highest paid player at his position makes.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#97 : July 29, 2011, 10:36:23 AM

The rest of that contract is incentives and bonuses that come with reaching certain goals. If he earns all of that 53mil(7.4 a year avg.), that would mean he is playing at a probowl level for those 7 years.
Every contract is like this. The Bucs didn't invent something new. Jahri Evans got $19 million guaranteed, too.
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We know all contracts are backloaded as well so unless this one is disproportionately backloaded in relative terms he's still not "cheap".

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.
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