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« #150 : August 25, 2011, 11:44:09 PM »

Richardson is a old man goon.  He is rich, and is used to doing things his way.  But his approach is wrong.  In a league filled with TATS, he should be smarter than that.  If Drew Brees suddenly comes into the season with a arm sleeve, does it mean he is less respected and a less functional QB?

Is he less marketable?

But should Cam respect the guy that is making him a millionaire?  If he had any brains he should.  But if he doesn;t want to, sure.  Go ahead and get a tat.  Perhaps a tat of some big titties on his biceps.  Is it going to ruin his chances of being an NFL talent?  Not at all.  Will it reduce his marketability?  Sure.  But PORN is a huge inudustry in the USA.

So many angles, but Iknow one thing:  Richardson is old.  And dinosaurs have died out.  Time to evolve old man.  And time for Newton to become a man.   


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« #151 : August 26, 2011, 02:59:14 PM »

Boid...  This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever seen from you.

Richardson is a old man goon.  He is rich, and is used to doing things his way.  But his approach is wrong.  In a league filled with TATS, he should be smarter than that.  If Drew Brees suddenly comes into the season with a arm sleeve, does it mean he is less respected and a less functional QB?  Is he "less functional"?  Of course not.  Would he be "less respected"?  Of course not.  Would it make him "less appealing" (for marketing purposes)?  Of course.

Is he less marketable?  Duh.

But should Cam respect the guy that is making him a millionaire?  Yes.  If he had any brains he should.  Duh.  But if he doesn;t want to, sure.  Go ahead and get a tat.  Not if you've shaken hands, and agreed "in principal" to maintain your already appealing appearance.  Perhaps a tat of some big titties on his biceps.  Is it going to ruin his chances of being an NFL talent?  Not at all.  Will it reduce his marketability?  Sure.  But PORN is a huge industry in the USA.  And this is what you base your logic on?  Like I said... "Worst post out of 40k of 'em"...!

So many angles, but Iknow one thing:  Richardson is old.  And dinosaurs have died out.  Time to evolve old man.  And time for Newton to become a man.   

Think about it Boid...  The majority of "old money" belongs to old guys.  There are only so many Mark Cuban-type owners out there (nu veau riche), but with that said...  Don't you realize that even the Mark Cuban/Dan Snyder types still hire ad agencies to help promote their products?  Do you think, even for a moment, their marketing managers are telling them "Yeah, we can market a guy with a ridiculous grill, and plenty of ice & ink..."  Keep it real Boid.  You're probably a young, rebellious guy - and there's NOTHING wrong with that.  Do you give any credence to the term "Madison Avenue attractive"?

And to think...  It's NOT like JR was asking Cam to "clean up his act", and get rid of any ink, etc.  He was telling the young guy "You look very respectable...  We'd like you to keep it that way."  Now - take it a step further...  Now that Cam's got that kind of coin in HIS account, don't you think HIS agent has marketing people that are also advising him to keep the same look?  Again...  Of course.

IF you're a young person, with career aspirations that allow you to hide in an underground bunker, your appearance is a non-issue.  IF you're a young person with career aspirations, that in ANY way involve "public perception", use your head.  IF your bottom line is affected in ANY WAY, doesn't it make sense to be cognizant of said appearance?  And just curious - are you not "a man" until you get inked up?

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« #152 : August 26, 2011, 03:07:48 PM »

This thread makes me want to kick people in the face.

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« #153 : August 26, 2011, 03:12:15 PM »

This thread makes me want to kick people in the face.
No sweat Jdub...  This topic isn't about race, old-school redneck mentality, slavery, freedom of choice, or even tyranny.

It's about the same damned thing everything revolves around...  Money.


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« #154 : August 26, 2011, 03:17:14 PM »


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« #155 : August 26, 2011, 03:18:45 PM »

lol @ Cam Newton being a franchise QB. He has a LONG way to go. His mechanics suck, he is relies on brute force to throw his deep ball. He has no accuracy and his WR core sucks.


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« #156 : August 26, 2011, 10:15:40 PM »

This thread makes me want to kick people in the face.
No sweat Jdub...  This topic isn't about race, old-school redneck mentality, slavery, freedom of choice, or even tyranny.

It's about the same damned thing everything revolves around...  Money.
This topic is about race. It even says so in the article.

I would love to know JR's motive for bringing it up now. Newton didn't bring it up. It almost seems like he's boasting about his prejudices.

Something tells me he's a major tea bag donor trying to score some pts with the Grand Ol' Party

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« #157 : August 26, 2011, 10:25:33 PM »

Richardson is a dinosaur.  He wants things to stay status quo, and in the NFL it ain't gonna happen.  These are athl;etes.  Is Richardson silly for bringing this out to the media?  IMO, absolutely.  Why worry about Cam having tats?  At this point, if he has not inked himself, I doubt he goes all full sleeve on us...he might get a tramp stamp though.  I digress.

Cam needs to grow up and become a man for several reasons.  He is now a guy tagged with saving that franchise.  He has had issues with his maturity before.  If he gets a tat it will not sway his ability as a QB. If he does, who cares.  But he is now a leader in the huddle, and all the "fake" stuff that has been associated with his personality needs to go. 

Cam has done nothing wrong.  And he is no slave.

Richardson is a crusty old man, and is one of the guys who was hardest to persuade during the CBA meetings.  He should worry more about the win/loss column, than worry about Cams appearance.  Unless Richardson thinks Tats makes you incapable of leadership, and incapable of being respected, incapable of getting a job done professionally.  In which case, as I alluded to, Richardson is a dinosaur who will go the way of extinction.  Owners like him will fade away...gone.

This thread is so full of reading miscomprehension, and foolish ideaology it makes me laugh.

READ...and if Brees gets full sleeve tats, he will not lose one ounce of marketability.  Unless he gets a tat on his face.  But even then...I HIGHLY doubt it.  Brees is a proven commodity.  A winner.

If Cam wins games, nobody will care.  He is a football player.  Just don;t screw up with all those tats.  Beause then guys like Richardson will say, "I KNEW IT!  THOSE DAMN TATS!"


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« #158 : August 27, 2011, 12:20:32 AM »

Richardson is a dinosaur.  He wants things to stay status quo, and in the NFL it ain't gonna happen.  You do realize the Yanks and Mets prohibit facial hair, right?  The Reds did until '99, and the Marlins did until just a few years ago.  Owners of NFL teams have the exact same rights man.  He may be a relic, but until someone else takes over he's the boss.  With that said, I'm sure you're also aware ow the fact that Hank and Hal CARRIED ON GEORGE'S "no facial hair below the lip" policy.  What idiots, huh?  These are athletes.  Is Richardson silly for bringing this out to the media?  Are you so thick as to NOT realize that this story is just more of Mike Florios regurgitated CRAP...?  And it's about a conversation between Jerry Jones, and Richardson on the Charlie Rose Show.  Richardson brought up nothing...    IMO, absolutely.  Why worry about Cam having tats?  At this point, if he has not inked himself, I doubt he goes all full sleeve on us...he might get a tramp stamp though.  I digress.

Cam needs to grow up and become a man for several reasons.  He is now a guy tagged with saving that franchise.  He has had issues with his maturity before.  If he gets a tat it will not sway his ability as a QB. If he does, who cares.  But he is now a leader in the huddle, and all the "fake" stuff that has been associated with his personality needs to go. 

Cam has done nothing wrong.  And he is no slave.  Wow.

Richardson is a crusty old man, and is one of the guys who was hardest to persuade during the CBA meetings.  He should worry more about the win/loss column, than worry about Cams appearance.  It's HIS business...  Who the hell are you to tell him how to run a football team?  Childish.  Unless Richardson thinks Tats makes you incapable of leadership, and incapable of being respected, incapable of getting a job done professionally.  In which case, as I alluded to, Richardson is a dinosaur who will go the way of extinction.  Owners like him will fade away...gone.

This thread is so full of reading miscomprehension, and foolish ideaology it makes me laugh.  Ironic much...?

READ...and if Brees gets full sleeve tats, he will not lose one ounce of marketability.  You just don't "Get It"...  Unless he gets a tat on his face.  But even then...I HIGHLY doubt it.  Brees is a proven commodity.  A winner.  And Cam ISN'T... Yet.

If Cam wins games, nobody will care.  He is a football player.  Just don;t screw up with all those tats.  Beause then guys like Richardson will say, "I KNEW IT!  THOSE DAMN TATS!"


Boid...  I promise not to enlighten you any longer.  You win.  **waves surrender flag**

I'm really thinking you have never actually read the article from April.  Richardson admits to being an old coot "stuck in his ways", but he doesn't sound like Hitler - that's for sure.

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Posted: Friday, Apr. 29, 2011

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Carolina Panthers first-round draft pick Cam Newton, right, gestures for a hand slap from Adam Smith of Make-A-Wish during an NFL football news conference at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, N.C., Friday, April 29, 2011. (AP Photo/Bob Leverone)
 

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The most famous piece of furniture in Charlotte, and perhaps the NFL, is a clock at the home of Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson.
 
The clock ticks loudly and - and I rarely ascribe human traits to inanimate objects, but this clock has a personality - indignantly. When a Carolina Panther offends his employer, Richardson invites him to his house, not really asking, and sits him in a chair. Richardson doesn't talk for a while. The slow and stubborn ticking is all the player hears.
 
When Cam Newton visited Richardson April 4, he asked only two questions. The first was, "Is that the clock?"
 
How did Newton know?
 
"Everybody in the NFL knows about the clock," Richardson says.
 
Richardson and I talk Friday afternoon. We sit at a table on his patio. In front of us is a vast lawn as smooth and lush as an Augusta National green.
 
Richardson did not select Newton on Thursday with the No.1 pick in the NFL draft. General manager Marty Hurney did. But Richardson could have vetoed the selection.
 
So the April 4 meeting was not without import.
 
Richardson is 74. Newton will turn 22 May 11. The younger repeatedly called the older sir.
 
"Are you calling me sir because you're trying to impress me?" Richardson asked.
 
"I'm calling you sir because that's the way I was raised," Newton said.
 
Richardson said he didn't want to talk about the past.
 
Newton thanked him.
 
If the Panthers draft you, you'll be part of our family, Richardson said. We'll move forward.
 
Richardson wants to move forward. Last season, the Panthers went 2-14. There was infighting within the organization. There was criticism from once-respectful fans.
 
He also is co-chair of the NFL committee that is negotiating with, and fighting against, the NFL Players Association, trying to reach accord on a collective-bargaining agreement.
 
Richardson says two prayers every night before bed.
 
The first is, "Help me not to judge." The second is, "Help me."
 
Not passing judgment is, Richardson admits, a challenge.
 
He says: "The society we live in, things get said and repeated. Because somebody says it, it becomes fact."
 
He told Newton: "Things have been said about me that aren't true and that I don't like. I know things have been said about you."
 
Back on the patio, Richardson says: "I'm not a choirboy. I've never said I was. And I don't want a roster of 53 choirboys. I told Jeremy Shockey (Carolina's new non-choirboy tight end), 'Don't change your personality. It'll be good for the team. I could do without the tattoos, though.'"
 
Richardson asked Newton if he had tattoos or piercings, and Newton said he did not.
 
Newton was flown to Charlotte on Friday morning and driven to Bank of America Stadium to meet with Panthers coaches and staff, and the media.
 
When he encountered Richardson, they embraced.
 
"Just getting a hug from Mr. Richardson makes it more official," Newton said about being a Panther.
 
"Did you get crazy after the draft and go out and get any tattoos or piercings?" Richardson asked. "Do I have to check you for anything?"
 
"No sir," said Newton.
 
During their April 4 meeting, Richardson asked Newton to tell him the best advice he's received.
 
Newton, who is 6-foot-5, extended his large hands.
 
"This is my circle right now," he said.
 
The circle was wide.
 
Newton drew his hands in and made the circle tight.
 
"Get it down to this," he said.
 
"That's about the best advice you could get," said Richardson. "If you come here, you'll have all the support you'll need."
 
Richardson asked Newton what mattered most - being drafted No. 1, or becoming a Panther.
 
"No, sir, I want to play for the Carolina Panthers," Newton said.
 
"You don't want to play in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, some place like that?" Richardson asked.
 
"No sir," said Newton. "I would be very happy to come here and make my career here."
 
The first question Newton asked was about the clock. The second was about Jimmy Clausen. Clausen became Carolina's starting quarterback as a rookie last season.
 
"How will Jimmy Clausen feel if you draft me?" Newton asked.
 
"He will handle it like a gentleman and he will compete as hard as he can," Richardson said.
 
The door to the patio opens and Richardson is told he has a telephone call. It's NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. He excuses himself.
 
When Richardson returns, I ask: Do you like Newton?
 
"A lot," he says. "A lot.
 
"What really got me is a few days after we talked I got an envelope from Federal Express. There was a letter in it, three handwritten pages. An agent obviously didn't write it."
 
Richardson said Newton did.
 
"He referred to things we talked about," said Richardson. "It was very personal and very thoughtful. No player who has come in for a (predraft) interview has ever written a letter. It showed he listened.
 
"So when you put all this together, it was not difficult."
 
The door to the patio again opens, and Richardson is told his guests have arrived. He asks me to accompany him. Waiting are Rosalind Richardson, Richardson's wife, and Jackie and Cecil Newton, Cam Newton's parents.
 
Everybody shakes hands. Cecil is about to sit. Suddenly, he stops and looks up.
 
"Oh-oh," he says. "Is that the clock?"


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« #159 : August 27, 2011, 01:12:08 AM »

I didn;t need to read about Richardson being an' ol' Coot.  I knew he was.  I ahve called him as such.

It is obvious your comprehension of my post was not only what I was alluding to, but misconstrued by you in so many ways.  I think you need to slow your roll.  I am not on anyones side here.  But to anyone who thinks Cam is being pushed around bt a slave driver, well...I think you are stupid.  And if you think I care what Cam Newton does with his arms (the only real visible areas he can get tattooed for us to see on Sundays), thenyou are again wrong.  If you think it makes him less marketable...,you are wrong.  Todays day and era LOVES guys like Cam.  Get a clue.

And the entire surrender crap means I get why you are ludicrous in your posts.  You are an old TBBBB poster apparently, and that place was a schidtheap.


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« #160 : August 27, 2011, 01:16:23 AM »

And you couldn't enlighten me if you were the Dalai Lama.  I read.  So believe me when I say this.  I also comprehend, and some of the posts that litter this site should really be re-read before you click the "post" button.  Not just referencing FTW either.  Be-Lee-Dat!!

Slow down when you read and get what I am saying.  It is obvious some of you guys get very confused.  Gonna have to get my crayons.


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« #161 : August 27, 2011, 05:27:33 AM »

ESPN's Colin Cowherd says it's OK for Panthers owner Jerry Richardson to ask QB Cam Newton to avoid tattoos and piercings.  Here's his take:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=6895509


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« #162 : August 27, 2011, 10:55:28 AM »

I didn;t need to read about Richardson being an' ol' Coot.  I knew he was.  I ahve called him as such.
Well, we can agree on something at least.

It is obvious your comprehension of my post was not only what I was alluding to, but misconstrued by you in so many ways.  I think you need to slow your roll.  I am not on anyones side here.  But to anyone who thinks Cam is being pushed around bt a slave driver, well...I think you are stupid.  And if you think I care what Cam Newton does with his arms (the only real visible areas he can get tattooed for us to see on Sundays), thenyou are again wrong.
Some of the crap you type makes a "Blah, blah, blah sound" in my brain.  These comments are from The Department of WTF Is He Talking About, and are equally unimportant and irrelevant.


If you think it makes him less marketable...,you are wrong.
You have ZERO concept of what a "business model" is.  Much less - what makes one work, and what doesn't.


Todays day and era LOVES guys like Cam.
Undeniably.  Richardson just wants to see the kid STAY CLEAN-CUT...  Thank God Cam's got some good parenting and adult input (as he enters the pros), instead of YOU as his Image Consultant.  And knucklehead, don't doubt for a minute he DOES have one.

  And the entire surrender crap means I get why you are ludicrous in your posts.  You are an old TBBBB poster apparently, and that place was a schidtheap.
This is more of your aimless rambling I don't get...
I had to actually Google "TBBBB" to see what it means, and I can assure you - I don't look for Bucs Talk on any of the following:
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OR...
Tiffany Bryant (on Facebook)

My suggestion...  ADD credibility to your thoughts by telling me WHY I have been ludicrous.  Or WHY I have been idiotic.  Making blanket statements, with little or no merit, and of an insulting nature (with absolutely NOTHING to substantiate your childish banter), make you look either incredibly foolish or thoughtless at the very least.

And learn how to spell and utilize punctuation correctly.  To not do so, screams "ignorant" to most folks.

Step up your game kid.


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« #163 : August 27, 2011, 10:57:44 AM »

ESPN's Colin Cowherd says it's OK for Panthers owner Jerry Richardson to ask QB Cam Newton to avoid tattoos and piercings.  Here's his take:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=6895509

Cowherd's just another talking head on a MSM outlet...  I DID like his reference to NFL quarterbacks as "Sports Royalty" because they are viewed as just that.

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