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#15 : August 31, 2011, 08:08:07 PM

Schaub's overrated. Put Freeman in the Texan's offense and it would be unstoppable. I wish we would have made a commitment to be a zone team and bring in offensive lineman to fit when Raheem and Dominik took over. Offensive line is the one piece we're still missing, and there's no clear answers in site.

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#16 : August 31, 2011, 08:17:16 PM

Schaub is overrated?  he has done it for more then just 1 season.  the homers strike again.....

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#17 : August 31, 2011, 08:21:45 PM

Matt Schaub has thrown for 9140 yards and 53 TDs in the last two years. How is he over rated?


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#18 : August 31, 2011, 08:22:53 PM

13th best qb in the world is elite..... If you really think about it...

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#19 : August 31, 2011, 08:26:26 PM

    B.Aaron Rodgers
    B.Philip Rivers
    B.B. Roethlisberger
    B.Matt Schaub
    B.Michael Vick
    B.Donovan McNabb


Other than being in the same NFC division, Donovan McNabb being grouped with Aaron Rodgers for any reason is laughable.


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#20 : August 31, 2011, 08:37:51 PM

Interesting. These were my rankings. I'm sure someone will get on me for ranking Vick so low, but he's just too inconsistent IMO. He'll look great some games, and just not get it done in others.


1. 1.Aaron Rodgers
2. 2.B. Roethlisberger
3. 3.Drew Brees
4. 4.Tom Brady
5. 5.Philip Rivers
6. 6.Peyton Manning
7. 7.Josh Freeman
8. 8.Sam Bradford
9. 9.Matt Ryan
10. 10.Joe Flacco
11. 11.Jay Cutler
12. 12.Matt Schaub
13. 13.Michael Vick
14. 14.Matthew Stafford
15. 15.Tony Romo
16. 16.Eli Manning
17. 17.Kevin Kolb
18. 18.Colt McCoy
19. 19.Mark Sanchez
20. 20.Matt Cassel
21. 21.Kyle Orton
22. 22.Ryan Fitzpatrick
23. 23.Matt Hasselbeck
24. 24.Donovan McNabb
25. 25.Chad Henne
26. 26.Jason Campbell
27. 27.David Garrard
28. 28.Alex Smith
29. 29.John Beck
30. 30.Tarvaris Jackson
You have Freeman at #7 and Matt Cassel at #20.  Both won 10 games in 2010.  Freeman passed for 3,400 yards, Cassel 3,100.  Freeman 25 TDs.  Cassel 27 TDs.  Freeman 6 INTs.  Cassel 7 INTs.  Freeman 96 rating.  Cassel 93.  There isn't that much difference between the two.


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#21 : August 31, 2011, 09:09:24 PM

    B.Aaron Rodgers
    B.Philip Rivers
    B.B. Roethlisberger
    B.Matt Schaub
    B.Michael Vick
    B.Donovan McNabb


Other than being in the same NFC division, Donovan McNabb being grouped with Aaron Rodgers for any reason is laughable.

We'll see. Everyone seems to think McNabb is no good anymore, but I'm betting he has a great year with the Vikings. Just too bad he doesn't have better receivers.


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#22 : August 31, 2011, 09:10:20 PM

    A.Tom Brady
    A.Peyton Manning
    A.Drew Brees

    B.Aaron Rodgers
    B.Philip Rivers
    B.B. Roethlisberger
    B.Matt Schaub
    B.Michael Vick
    B.Donovan McNabb

    C.Josh Freeman
    C.Matt Ryan
    C.Joe Flacco
    C.Eli Manning
    C.Tony Romo
    C.Sam Bradford
    C.Matthew Stafford

    D.Matt Cassel
    D.Jay Cutler
    D.Kyle Orton
    D.Jason Campbell
    D.Mark Sanchez
    D.Colt McCoy
    D.Kevin Kolb
    D.Matt Hasselbeck

    E.Ryan Fitzpatrick
    E.David Garrard
    E.Chad Henne
    E.John Beck
    E.Tarvaris Jackson
    E.Alex Smith


     

     
   

Rodgers is more maroon
McNabb's a blue
Freeman's got a little red mixed with that blue

good list


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#23 : August 31, 2011, 09:35:24 PM

"Elite" is such an over used term when it comes to NFL QBs.  Elite signifies the best of the best.  So who is that when were are talking about QBs?  Maybe 6 guys depending on who you ask.

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rodgers

Some will say Rivers, some will say Big Ben.  Beyond these guys I don't think any other QBs are elite.  There are some QBs in the NFL that have the potential, but that doens't make them elite.

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#24 : August 31, 2011, 10:39:51 PM

13th best qb in the world is elite..... If you really think about it...

Every player in the NFL is elite in relation to the rest of Earth's population.  When we talk about being "elite" we're generally speaking in terms of how they relate to other players at the same level of competition.

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#25 : August 31, 2011, 10:42:14 PM

13th best qb in the world is elite..... If you really think about it...

Every player in the NFL is elite in relation to the rest of Earth's population.  When we talk about being "elite" we're generally speaking in terms of how they relate to other players at the same level of competition.


Using blackthoughtz logic, Ryan Leaf was elite.


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#26 : September 01, 2011, 09:17:58 AM

Matt Schaub has thrown for 9140 yards and 53 TDs in the last two years. How is he over rated?

Sage Rosefeld put up numbers in that offense when Shaub was out. I'm not saying that Shaub is bad, just that he isn't a top 10 QB in the league. Is anyone going to tell me they would take Shaub over Freeman? or that the Bucs would stand a chance in hell at making the playoffs with Shaub at QB? If you can't say that, then why rate him above Freeman?

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#27 : September 01, 2011, 09:30:57 AM

Matt Schaub has thrown for 9140 yards and 53 TDs in the last two years. How is he over rated?

Sage Rosefeld put up numbers in that offense when Shaub was out. I'm not saying that Shaub is bad, just that he isn't a top 10 QB in the league. Is anyone going to tell me they would take Shaub over Freeman? or that the Bucs would stand a chance in hell at making the playoffs with Shaub at QB? If you can't say that, then why rate him above Freeman?

Not a fair question. Freeman is our franchise QB. I wouldn't trade him for anyone.

Secondly, Schaub is 30. So no I wouldn't want him anyways.

With that said, using the offensive scheme as an excuse for his success is lame. Sage Rosenfels didn't put up sh!t in Houston. He sucked. Look at his stats. 24 TDs and 23 Ints with just over 3k yards in 19 games over three seasons.....yuck.

Schaub's 9140 yards and 53 TDs in two seasons doesn't happen by accident or from luck. Schaub has developed into a helluva QB and is very underrated.


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#28 : September 01, 2011, 09:33:53 AM

Schaub's a guy any coach in the NFL would be happy to have, but he's not top 10 on a list of QB's.  Solid player.


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#29 : September 01, 2011, 09:35:08 AM

Matt Schaub has thrown for 9140 yards and 53 TDs in the last two years. How is he over rated?

Sage Rosefeld put up numbers in that offense when Shaub was out. I'm not saying that Shaub is bad, just that he isn't a top 10 QB in the league. Is anyone going to tell me they would take Shaub over Freeman? or that the Bucs would stand a chance in hell at making the playoffs with Shaub at QB? If you can't say that, then why rate him above Freeman?

Josh Freeman went 1-5 against winning teams.  I don't see him leading this team to the playoffs.

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