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#30 : September 26, 2011, 05:51:02 PM

Yea our secondary isnt that bad at all. I know they allowed some pass yards but our corners kept the receivers out of the end zone all game. Gonzo is a matchup nightmare for any team. Hes gonna get those TDs more than he wont.

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#31 : September 26, 2011, 05:56:12 PM

Biggers needs to be replaced as the #2 CB for sure.  Anyone who thinks he is legit as the #2 is kidding themselves. 

He makes no plays on the ball at all, and he got demolished yesterday.  Glad Ronde recognized it, but came to his rescue...

He is a solid #3 guy, I get that.  But he is no playmaker.


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#32 : September 26, 2011, 06:13:27 PM

So does barber only cover receivers that are his height and his speed? If not, then why wasn't talib and barber on roddy and jones? why did a nickel corner have to cover there best receiver?

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#33 : September 26, 2011, 06:17:10 PM

Biggers always plays on the outside in nickel. Ronde plays the slot in nickel....has for a bunch of years now. If the Falcons had put Roddy in the slot, Barber would have been covering him. I guess Rah wasn't that worried about the potential matchup issues.

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#34 : September 26, 2011, 06:28:48 PM

Biggs, the Eagles have given up 8 passing TDs in 3 games. (Bradford, Ryan, E. Manning) That's the most by any team in the NFL. Did Aso make them better? Was that $12M a year well spent?

Our secondary has allowed just 4 passing TDs. (Stafford, McNabb, Ryan) Just sayin.

Nnamdi Asomugha has given all of 1 TD in those three games, and the team's record is on him?  I bet he's the reason their run defense is atrocious too...


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#35 : September 26, 2011, 06:53:12 PM

Biggers is a good CB. He just happened to play against a physical WR who was beating him up to the ball. I respected Biggers in yestarday's game because he was always there.  I even give him credit for the drops that White had.  He was all over him and that played in his mind.  Biggers is a great CB that would start elsewhere.  And no Im no drinking the Kool Aid just observing what is done on every Sunday.  Look what Clavin Johnson did to Minnies corner.  There are players on each team that get theres no matter who is on them.

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#36 : September 26, 2011, 07:11:53 PM

Biggs, the Eagles have given up 8 passing TDs in 3 games. (Bradford, Ryan, E. Manning) That's the most by any team in the NFL. Did Aso make them better? Was that $12M a year well spent?

Our secondary has allowed just 4 passing TDs. (Stafford, McNabb, Ryan) Just sayin.

Nnamdi Asomugha has given all of 1 TD in those three games, and the team's record is on him?  I bet he's the reason their run defense is atrocious too...

I didn't say their record was on him. I didn;t even mention their record. I didn't bring up thier run defense either. I said they have given up more passing TDs than any other team in the league. Now, if Aso didn't make their entire defense better, was he worth that much money? And one TD in 3 games is actually one TD too many when a guy is making that much loot. Also, are you not counting the awful mistackle that allowed a 60yard TD? I am. For that amount of money you have to be able to tackle in my opinion. So he has given up 2 TDs in 3 games. I'll ask again, was he worth the money?
: September 26, 2011, 07:15:42 PM JDouble


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#37 : September 26, 2011, 07:19:40 PM

Biggs, the Eagles have given up 8 passing TDs in 3 games. (Bradford, Ryan, E. Manning) That's the most by any team in the NFL. Did Aso make them better? Was that $12M a year well spent?

Our secondary has allowed just 4 passing TDs. (Stafford, McNabb, Ryan) Just sayin.

Nnamdi Asomugha has given all of 1 TD in those three games, and the team's record is on him?  I bet he's the reason their run defense is atrocious too...

I didn't say their record was on him. I didn;t even mention their record. I didn't bring up thier run defense either. I said they have given up more passing TDs than any other team in the league. Now, if Aso didn't make their entire defense better, was he worth that much money? And one TD in 3 games is actually one TD too many when a guy is making that much loot. Also, are you not counting the awful mistackle that allowed a 60yard TD? I am. For that amount of money you have to be able to tackle in my opinion. So he has given up 2 TDs in 3 games. I'll ask again, was he worth the money?
Maybe he isn't doing what the Eagles thought he'd do for them, but just because a player doesn't work out in one city, doesn't mean he wouldn't work somewhere else. Maybe coaching is the problem and a DB specialist like Morris could keep him playing like he did the previous 6 years of his career and not the past 3 games. There are a lot of variables.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#38 : September 26, 2011, 07:39:11 PM

He fits the defense in Philly, so I'm not sure why he isn't doing well. He doesn't fit this system though so I can't imagine he'd have done better here.


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#39 : September 26, 2011, 08:03:29 PM

EJ Biggers gave up no Touchdowns and was part of a defense that allowed only 55 completion percentage.

I guess it amazes some of you that receivers got a lot of yards when they threw the ball 47 times


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#40 : September 26, 2011, 08:16:51 PM

Biggs, the Eagles have given up 8 passing TDs in 3 games. (Bradford, Ryan, E. Manning) That's the most by any team in the NFL. Did Aso make them better? Was that $12M a year well spent?

Our secondary has allowed just 4 passing TDs. (Stafford, McNabb, Ryan) Just sayin.

Nnamdi Asomugha has given all of 1 TD in those three games, and the team's record is on him?  I bet he's the reason their run defense is atrocious too...

I didn't say their record was on him. I didn;t even mention their record. I didn't bring up thier run defense either. I said they have given up more passing TDs than any other team in the league. Now, if Aso didn't make their entire defense better, was he worth that much money? And one TD in 3 games is actually one TD too many when a guy is making that much loot. Also, are you not counting the awful mistackle that allowed a 60yard TD? I am. For that amount of money you have to be able to tackle in my opinion. So he has given up 2 TDs in 3 games. I'll ask again, was he worth the money?

Of course he's worth the money.  This is a ludicrous position you're taking.  And if you don't think the results in yesterday's game would have been different with Aso in place of Biggers (which is what your implied when you brought up Aso) you're nuts.



He fits the defense in Philly, so I'm not sure why he isn't doing well. He doesn't fit this system though so I can't imagine he'd have done better here.

He's doing fine.  He had one bad game. 

Game 1:  1 reception on 2 targets
Game 2:  1 reception on 4 targets (1 interception and pass defensed)
Game 3:  2 receptions on 4 targets (gave up a TD)

For the season: 40% completion percentage and 63.3 QBR against.

Geezus, you're overreacting to one bad game.  Get back to me if he sucks the rest of the season.


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#41 : September 26, 2011, 08:19:47 PM

I didn't imply Biggers is better than Aso. That is ridiculous.

I implied that despite all the kicking and screaming of fan bois, you still cannot buy a winning team. I implied that our secondary has been better as a unit even though it costs about 1/10 as much. I implied that Aso was not worth the money because he doesn't make the defense better as a whole. At least he hasn't to this point.

Can you honestly say that the Aso/Samuels tandem is so much better than Samuels/Rodgers-Cromartie tandem that is was worth making Aso the highest paid CB in the history of the NFL? I don't think the difference is even noticeable or ever will be. In fact, if I had to choose I would take Rodghers-Cromartie because he is younger and more versatile. Seems to me that money could have been better spent by the Eagles.
: September 26, 2011, 08:27:04 PM JDouble


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#42 : September 26, 2011, 08:33:22 PM

I implied that our secondary has been better as a unit even though it costs about 1/10 as much.

Philly's pass defense:  10th
Tampa's pass defense:  23rd



I implied that Aso was not worth the money because he doesn't make the defense better as a whole. At least he hasn't to this point.

Do you apply this same logic to Quincy Black making the defense better as a whole?  How about Joseph and Trueblood making the offense better as a whole?

I'm guessing not...


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#43 : September 26, 2011, 08:41:26 PM

Biggers wins.  Nnamdi is worth every dime.  To bash him is absurd.  The man is bonafide, and Biggers is a nickel in 2's clothing.

Bet you this...if Nnamdi was targetted (picked on) as much as Biggers was yesterday, I am more than willing to bet he has more than 2 passes defended, and probably a pick.  Or 2.

Nnamdi is a better corner, he makes their pass defense better.  To argue against this is arguing to argue.


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#44 : September 26, 2011, 08:49:49 PM

Football is a team sport...calling out 1 piece of the secondary (or defense) seems a bit silly, don't you think?

Biggers was a gaping hole in the defense yesterday...where Joseph/Aso would not have been.

pretty ironic post imo

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