Soviet Born man talks to some OWS people

[burger40]

I understand and sympathize with some of the things OWS is against like bailouts and cronyism, but why oh why do they think more gov't will solve it when it was the gov't who gave the money to these banks in the first place and continue to write loop holes in the tax codes and regs to whomever pays them off that cycle. i suppose the answer is elect honest politicians 

anyhoo it is funny to see some useful idiots get absolutely destroyed on teh issue of ROK vs North Korea for instance. enjoy
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2011/10/24/soviet-born_man_takes_on_occupy_wall_street

[bradentonian]

When I was in Russia in 09 I was surprised that many of the folks I spoke with preferred the Soviet way of life and were hopeful the old style of government would return

[spartan]

That because many of them were used to getting paid for doing little to nothing.

There is also a large chunk of retired people who have been essentially ignored by the Russian Govt as they are retired and cannot work to improve themselves. They look back and think at least we had a decent pension.

[Skull and Bones]

Russia is a corrupt, autocratic kleptocracy centred on the leadership of Vladimir Putin, in which officials, oligarchs and organised crime are bound together to create a "virtual mafia state".

[John Galt?]

LOL at the OWS people. They don't even know the definition of capitalism or socialism. And the old lady didn't even know who Che Guevara was-LMAO.

Cain is right, they should be occupying Capitol Hill, not Wall Street

[alldaway]

You laugh at the OWS people John Galt? because the Tea Party failed to gain such notoriety or support.  There is a reason why the Libertarian utopia is rejected by any sane person.

[cyberdude558]

At least the tea party has a clear message and know what they want. They organize and effect elections.

These Occupy people are mostly college-age kids with no job, they are just laying aroung in the street with tents and signs that bash Republicans and rich people, and they will ultimately vote for the status quo (Obama).....who they would have voted for anyway. No one is scared of them. The GOP knows they would have never had their vote anyway. And the Democrats know they will vote for whoever they tell them to vote for. So their whole movement ultimately means absolutely nothing.

The Tea Party was able to upset the primaries and threaten the establishment. And many of those anti-establishment people then win the general elections. That's how the Tea Party has made change in the GOP and changed the way the Republican-controlled House is doing business. The Occupy people will just keep voing for Obama, Barney Frank, Schumer, Pelosi, etc, etc, etc, etc... People the the rich already have in their back pocket. No change will take place. They arnt threatning anyone's job.

[dalbuc]

You laugh at the OWS people John Galt? because the Tea Party failed to gain such notoriety or support.  There is a reason why the Libertarian utopia is rejected by any sane person.

The OWS people only have notoriety because they're media friendly - they sit in one place stinking up the joint so cameras can find them- plus they are selling a story the media likes to tell. The Tea Party people have actual jobs and it makes it hard for them to be photogenic. The difference is that the OWS people are doing nothing to change the national dialog - soaking the rich was already Obama's campaign slogan before OWS and the idea that bailouts suck was taken by the Tea Party a long time ago. Plus, in total the number of morons sitting occupying diddly is microscopic in the end.

BTW, I assume the cat in the video isn't a Russian because the accent sounds really fake and the old woman who think NK is ok is obviously crazier than a loon.

[dalbuc]

When I was in Russia in 09 I was surprised that many of the folks I spoke with preferred the Soviet way of life and were hopeful the old style of government would return

No, I've been there plenty since 09 and other than one old man wearing a hammer and sickle no one wants the "Soviets" back what they do want back, and why Putin and his criminal government is tolerated, is the glory and (perceived) strength the old USSR had.

[John Galt?]

You laugh at the OWS people John Galt? because the Tea Party failed to gain such notoriety or support.

No I laugh at them because they are ignorant and dumb, same reason I laughed at "The Waterboy".

The reason they get notoriety is they have been down there for 2 straight weeks. All the Tea Party events were one day affairs usually on the weekends, because Tea Partiers have to work.

As far as support, I believe the Tea Party has already gotten far more support than this rabble. Many GOP candidates embraced the Tea Party and it did effect the last mid-term election. I don't see any candidates embracing these people (maybe if they showered they'd be more embracable).


I can't take these folks seriously because they are protesting against nothing in particular. They have no clear platform or agenda other than to camp out in the streets and make funny hand gestures.
What is their platform? what is on their agenda? what are their goals? Other than stinking up the place and interfering with those who have jobs, that is.

  There is a reason why the Libertarian utopia is rejected by any sane person.

What Libertarian Utopia?? Libertarianism is by definition non-Utopian. Libertarianism is belief in freedom to purse success or failure without Govt. intervention. Libertarianism accepts failure is part of life, that is non-Utopian. It is the pursuit of the optimal, not the ideal.

[Biggs3535]

You laugh at the OWS people John Galt? because the Tea Party failed to gain such notoriety or support.

LMAO

[dbucfan]

If the OWS folks would be good enough to move south to DC they could join some folks who share their views.  But they need to get there before next election I suspect

[cyberdude558]

Well if you were Russian, who would you rather have as your president?

[spartan]

What does it say about people who have the spare time to 'camp out' for 2+ weeks or more?

[Skull and Bones]

You laugh at the OWS people John Galt? because the Tea Party failed to gain such notoriety or support.  There is a reason why the Libertarian utopia is rejected by any sane person.

do the 2010 elections ring a bell?