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FRG is the most logical poster on this board. You guys just don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.
That had ZERO to do with them not going back to the Super Bowl. That's straight out of Wichita (Kansas) to borrow a line from a favorite movie.They weren't good enough.
IMO, Gruden lived out his playing days through his coaching. Many players echoed what seemed as though they were actually having to compete with their coach when their coach should have been the guy building them up and allowing them to have their glory. The world is full of people just like this; nothing uncommon....Gruden fits the mold perfectly. That is why I believe he will never coach again in the NFL...he has a superbowl and is satisfied. There was another coach turned commentator who was just like this; his name.....John Madden.
Excuse my redundancy, but I'll repeat what I wrote in another thread.."Gramatica falls apart, psychologically. Sapp, still waiting for Gruden to call him back.McCardell, said the coach was a liar.Lynch, released unceremoniously "not" passing physical. Left feeling like he was dealt with dishonestly. Picked up right away and productive in Denver. Keyshawn, a highly productive receiver, released because he could not be dealt with.Thomas Jones, shows he is productive, then we let him walk. Charlie Garner.Galloway, can't get him on field with Bryant. Alstott, talks about loving what the guy brings, but then won't use him.Bruce Gradkowski...Garcia/Griese? Won't decide on starter.Rob Johnson... lolGoing after Favre...Don't miss it. "What really bothers me is how so many of Buc "fans" watched so many cherished players get mistreated, and ALWAYS defended the coach.. Sickening, honestly.
Quote from: ProFootballTalkMeanwhile, and in all fairness to Gruden, we’ll wait for one or more of his former players to publicly declare that Gruden is inherently honest.Didn't McCardell and Sapp do that already??
Meanwhile, and in all fairness to Gruden, we’ll wait for one or more of his former players to publicly declare that Gruden is inherently honest.
It wasn't Keyshawn Johnson chewing off his ear for more passes. It wasn't Keenan McCardell shaking him down for more money.But after practice Thursday, coach Jon Gruden went head to head with another veteran receiver.Four times during an animated, five-minute discussion, Joe Jurevicius turned his back to walk away while Gruden was talking. Four times, he returned to finish a point.source: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/21/Bucs/Frustrated_Jurevicius.shtml
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/02/shaun-king-calls-jon-gruden-inherently-dishonest/Specifically, King said Gruden is “inherently dishonest.”