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« : November 03, 2011, 10:50:12 PM »

...sterilizing the population. For the first time in recorded history, birth rates are down four years in a row now in the USA. Also, proof GMO's cause cancer in test animals, etc. Read on if you are interested. I would suggest anyone who wants GMO's labeled to call or write all of your representatives. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

The Rockefeller's and the other "elite" who are pushing the GMO products in our food are also highly invested in our health care system. Treating cancer is extremely profitable for them. Hmmmmm.

GMO's and sterility: http://www.truthistreason.net/children-of-the-corn-gmo-sterility-and-spermicides

GMO facts: http://bestmeal.info/food/GMOs.shtml

GMO's threaten Earth's biodiversity: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/news/nature/2011/10/21/1281.html

GMO's toxicity: http://informationliberation.com/?id=20977&comments=0

GMO info and what you can do to avoid them: http://www.dulabab.com/food-medicine/genetically-modified-gm-food/

GMO causes organ failure(kidney/liver) Global elites NOT eating GMO products: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?blend=1&ob=5#p/search/7/AaGlmrGtu-c


i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  

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« #1 : November 04, 2011, 09:20:01 AM »

Ahhh the usual raft of crazy sites and wild conspiracy theories. 

The really funny thing is that all human food products are the result of GMO because almost nothing we eat is in the "natural" form it appears in in the wild.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #2 : November 04, 2011, 10:48:43 AM »

I got a s far as the claim that MSG is a genetically modified organism and realized the research content was <0.

Problem with the internet is there is no editorial review. Anyone can put up a site.


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« #3 : November 04, 2011, 12:14:16 PM »

Ahhh the usual raft of crazy sites and wild conspiracy theories. 

The really funny thing is that all human food products are the result of GMO because almost nothing we eat is in the "natural" form it appears in in the wild.

That is so true.

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« #4 : November 04, 2011, 01:12:07 PM »

I have a pet peeve about "organic" foods. ALL food except salt is organic. There is no such thing as non-organic chicken or broccoli or lettuce. Yet they still want to slap a label on it and charge 2x as much.

Organic= anything derived from an organism. Diesel, many plastics, cotton, manure, etc. are all organic, doesn't mean I want to pay more to eat that stuff.


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« #5 : November 04, 2011, 11:35:32 PM »

Ahhh the usual raft of crazy sites and wild conspiracy theories. 

The really funny thing is that all human food products are the result of GMO because almost nothing we eat is in the "natural" form it appears in in the wild.

Conspiracy thoeries? Where. LOL. The Monsanto GM corn actually grows a pesticide right in the corn, so that bugs won't eat it. If bugs do eat it, it basically melts their intestines. What do you think that does to your body when you consume it?

I like your term "human food products". I'm not sure about you, but I eat all organic fruit and veg whenever possible. Just because a "human food product" has been processed doesn't mean it is genetically modified. You clearly don't understand....genetic engineering involves splicing a bacteria, or virus(usually e.coli) into the cell to allow DNA from another animal or plant to be inserted into that cell. For instance, to make Salmon, or tomatos grow bigger they can splice pig genetics into it using this method.


I got a s far as the claim that MSG is a genetically modified organism and realized the research content was <0.


MSG is mass produced in factories and is absolutely genetically modified in most cases. Beware, hydrolyzed vegetable protein also contains MSG even though it's not labeled.

I have done my research and that is why I avoid GM foods at all costs. the truth is, we don't know exactly what the effects of GM foods are because the government and corporate interests block any and all research into it and marginalize anyone attempting to do so. We do know it cause cancer in the test rats and mutations by the third generation. I have put this information up here for those who are interested in GM foods and the problems with them. Perhaps there are some people out there like myself who have adverse physical reactions to GM foods and they can benefit from this information. 

As long as you are aware of what is in your foods, you can make logical choices. If you choose to regard anything on this Earth as "organic", that is your right. I personally believe that if the human body consumes toxins it will weaken the immune system and allow for that person to develop any range of problems. Basically, your immune system will be vulnerable to any virus or bacteria you are exposed to.

I believe in the thoeries of Dr. Max Gerson, who developed the Gerson therapy(gerson.org) in the 50's to eliminate his migrane headaches. By eliminating toxins from his diet and eating organically grown(without toxic pesticides and agrochemicals) fruits and vegetables he was able to rid himself of his migrane headaches, and many other people of a wide range of diseases.

I believe our bodies have the power to fight off almost any and all diseases, but first you have to have a healthy immune system. The only way to achieve this is through the systematic elimination of toxins from your food, water and environment. In todays world that is an unbelievably difficult task. Genetically modified foods therefore can not be a part of my diet. All I ask is that they be labaled so I can make an educated decision on the foods I eat.

I have already contacted my elected officials and if you believe in making your own choices about the food you eat, I suggest you do the same. The link is on the top of the first post. Thanks


i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  

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« #6 : November 05, 2011, 06:10:24 PM »

I got a s far as the claim that MSG is a genetically modified organism and realized the research content was <0.


MSG is mass produced in factories and is absolutely genetically modified in most cases.

Your grade in biology is F for FAIL

Monosodium Glutamate contains no genetic material so how the hell is it "genetically modified"?? Next you will tell me that SALT is genetically modified.


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« #7 : November 06, 2011, 12:26:10 AM »

dont bother responding to JG? and his little group of athiests...they like to gallop around this board telling everyone to shut their eyes and ears or you'll make a scene...shhhh  shhhh ...there is no conspiracy....

buncha big mouth has beens...they'll be the first to sprout an ear of corn outta their head and then they may be wondering...hey maybe GMO's are dangerous...hmmm

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« #8 : November 06, 2011, 10:14:53 AM »


I like your term "human food products". I'm not sure about you, but I eat all organic fruit and veg whenever possible. Just because a "human food product" has been processed doesn't mean it is genetically modified. You clearly don't understand....genetic engineering involves splicing a bacteria, or virus(usually e.coli) into the cell to allow DNA from another animal or plant to be inserted into that cell. For instance, to make Salmon, or tomatos grow bigger they can splice pig genetics into it using this method.


You don't get it. If you eat wheat, organic or not, if has been genetically modified. Wheat normally sheds the fruit - otherwise the plant wouldn't last long. Humans geneticially modified it to not shed fruit so it would be harvestable. Bananas despite what Kirk Cameron thinks didn't start out looking like what you eat.  That whole process of domestication of food is all about genetic manipulation to get desired (often unnatural) traits to predominate. You've just chosen to get all **CENSORED**ed by one form of genetic engineering (lab) but when it is done by guys in fields you are apparently ok and actually even blissfully unaware.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #9 : November 06, 2011, 11:50:32 AM »

Ahhh the usual raft of crazy sites and wild conspiracy theories. 

The really funny thing is that all human food products are the result of GMO because almost nothing we eat is in the "natural" form it appears in in the wild.

I like your term "human food products". I'm not sure about you, but I eat all organic fruit and veg whenever possible.


I would hope so since ALL food (except salt), modified or not, spray with pesticides or not, is organic. What would "non-organic" foods be?? Broccoli made out of silicon? Beef cast from plaster?


or·gan·ic

adjective /ôrˈganik/ 

   1. Of, relating to, or derived from living matter
          * - organic soils

   2. Of, relating to, or denoting compounds containing carbon (other than simple binary compounds and salts) and chiefly or ultimately of biological origin



Oh, and definition no. 2 applies to MSG- a salt- further proving it CAN'T be genetically modified. You can't genetically modify a salt.


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« #10 : November 06, 2011, 11:54:19 AM »

dont bother responding to JG? All he'll do is post facts with links that can be verified by respected sources. He won't even use youtube videos made by anonymous kids in their momma's basement.

And I'm not an atheist, just practical and logical.


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« #11 : November 06, 2011, 01:06:20 PM »

Jesus said "if I do not do these things (miracles) you will by no means believe - but that ye shall know I come from the one that sent me forth..." and also "it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God without faith."
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God never asked humasns to believe in Him blindly, but no MATTER what we blelieve ~ some degree of faith is required (this includes atheism, scientism, and all religious faiths)

JG? your faith is very much lacking....

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« #12 : November 07, 2011, 07:19:25 AM »

there is nothing wrong improving upon things created - but when you are EXPERIMENTING on things you dont fully understand (taken the state of quatum physics I would argue we dont understand it at all) you are in a dangerous neighborhood. Messing with a living creature's deoxyribonucleic make up is not what we should be doing...

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« #13 : November 07, 2011, 07:56:56 AM »

I got a s far as the claim that MSG is a genetically modified organism and realized the research content was <0.


MSG is mass produced in factories and is absolutely genetically modified in most cases.

Your grade in biology is F for FAIL

Monosodium Glutamate contains no genetic material so how the hell is it "genetically modified"?? Next you will tell me that SALT is genetically modified.

FYI John Gait. You clearly don't understand the process of manufacture for MSG. The crazy scientists who are feeding you have developed a genetically modified bacteria that secretes the glutamic acid through their cell walls. You understand that just because something has the word sodium in it doesn't mean it's salt, right?   

What is MSG?

 MSG is a product produced from fruits vegetables, grains, fish, meat, poultry, and/or bacteria.  When used in pharmaceuticals it is called a pharmaceutical.  When used in food, it is called a food.  Often, but not always, MSG is used in processed food as a flavor enhancer.

Simply stated, MSG is glutamic acid that has been manufactured in a food or chemical plant or created by fermentation.  In every case, the glutamic acid that has been manufactured in food or chemical plants or created by fermentation is accompanied by unwanted byproducts of manufacture referred to as impurities. Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented protein in any meat, fish, fruit, grain, vegetable etc., contains glutamic acid but no impurities. Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented mushrooms and tomatoes contain glutamic acid, but they do not contain MSG. 

Prior to 1957, MSG was made by extracting glutamic acid from protein.  Some MSG is still made that way, but since 1957, MSG has also been produced using genetically modified bacteria (genetically modified organisms or GMO’s), that secrete glutamic acid through their cell walls.

MSG can be extracted from any food that contains protein.  Similarly, when any protein is fermented, MSG (glutamic acid that has been released from protein by the fermentation process) will be formed.

The key to understanding MSG lies in understanding the fact that MSG is a product (something manufactured or processed), not a substance found in nature without adulteration (changing) it.

Regardless of the way in which it was produced, MSG contains unwanted substances referred to as impurities.

MSG causes adverse reactions in people who ingest amounts that exceed their tolerances for the substance.  Unadulterated, unprocessed, unfermented protein, which contains glutamic acid, does not cause adverse reactions.

Ingredients that contain MSG can be added to processed foods, or MSG can be formed or created during processing.


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« #14 : November 07, 2011, 08:10:14 AM »


I like your term "human food products". I'm not sure about you, but I eat all organic fruit and veg whenever possible. Just because a "human food product" has been processed doesn't mean it is genetically modified. You clearly don't understand....genetic engineering involves splicing a bacteria, or virus(usually e.coli) into the cell to allow DNA from another animal or plant to be inserted into that cell. For instance, to make Salmon, or tomatos grow bigger they can splice pig genetics into it using this method.


You don't get it. If you eat wheat, organic or not, if has been genetically modified. Wheat normally sheds the fruit - otherwise the plant wouldn't last long. Humans geneticially modified it to not shed fruit so it would be harvestable. Bananas despite what Kirk Cameron thinks didn't start out looking like what you eat.  That whole process of domestication of food is all about genetic manipulation to get desired (often unnatural) traits to predominate. You've just chosen to get all **CENSORED**ed by one form of genetic engineering (lab) but when it is done by guys in fields you are apparently ok and actually even blissfully unaware.

Blissfully unaware? Me? There is a difference between selecting plants based on their genetics(traits). Gregor Mendel pioneered genetics by doing the pea experiments. He used breeding experiments to "lock down" certain traits in his experiments. THAT is not genetic engineering, it's natural selection. Those are two different things. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about at all. Just go look up genetic engineering in the dictionary. Get a clue, dude.

Organic food is NOT EVER genetically modified.

i was gonna do a long response but figured it was pointless...because i dont know the plan.  cant defend something i have no idea on.  
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