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#15 : December 20, 2011, 05:30:18 PM

Panthers message board members are comparing their current team to our 2010 team.....beating backup QBs and weak teams. Reminds me of last season.

Remember when Tampa Bay went 10-6 but didn't beat a team with a winning record?

Everyone thought their QB was the "future" of the NFL.
Their coach finished second in AP Coach of the Year voting.
They had two rookies making a huge impact on the team.

This year their QB is among the worst in the league.
Their coach was going to be fired but they didn't have enough assistant coaches.
Their two sophomores haven't made the same impact on their team.

I hope what we're seeing is not a facade.



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#16 : December 20, 2011, 06:25:14 PM

Kid is full of confidence and is having one great season.....you have to wonder why our guy can't hit open receivers like he does.



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#17 : December 20, 2011, 06:34:58 PM

Kid is full of confidence and is having one great season.....you have to wonder why our guy can't hit open receivers like he does.



Mostly because our guys arnt open and when they are the defense is right in Freemans face.

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#18 : December 20, 2011, 08:47:43 PM

Kid is full of confidence and is having one great season.....you have to wonder why our guy can't hit open receivers like he does.



Mostly because our guys arnt open and when they are the defense is right in Freemans face.


Half the time Freeman can't hit them when they are open. There are at least a half a dozen throws (usually on critical 3rd downs) during the game, when you have to ask yourself what the hell he was throwing at. Great kid but he just isn't very accurate and never was.

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#19 : December 20, 2011, 08:59:41 PM

In the championship game in my FF league ... guess I should start Cam & D'Angelo this week LOL

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#20 : December 20, 2011, 09:17:59 PM

It is going to be ugly; long and ugly. I see Panthers feasting on apathetic Bucs. Ugly. Would be nice to be proven wrong though, not much hope but some. Ugly.

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#21 : December 20, 2011, 09:21:52 PM

I'm lucky... I will be at work.


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#22 : December 20, 2011, 09:31:04 PM

Kid is full of confidence and is having one great season.....you have to wonder why our guy can't hit open receivers like he does.



Mostly because our guys arnt open and when they are the defense is right in Freemans face.

Wrong. That is the assumption....it's clearly not a fact. You can't blame everyone around him. Freeman has been horrible. Hopefully he doesn't suck next year, but lets stop making excuses for him. I think he will be much improved with a better offensive system next year and an offseason.

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#23 : December 21, 2011, 07:14:45 AM

Play for draft pick? Rivera: Better to win

Coach Ron Rivera has heard the chatter suggesting the Panthers are hurting their draft position having won three of their past four games.

The chance of landing one of the top three picks in the draft has evaporated and, at the moment, it appears they likely will draft somewhere between sixth and 10th.

Rivera isn't concerned about draft position.

"I think there's enough good football players that you don't have to worry about where you finish in the draft," he said.

"The best part is we don't have to worry about the quarterback position. ... I'm more than happy with our guy."

He feels similarly about a potential third-place finish in the NFC South. If the Panthers beat Tampa Bay on Saturday, they will clinch third place in the division. It will determine two games on the 2012 schedule - pitting them against the third-place teams from the NFC North and the NFC West.

"If we finish in front of the (Bucs), great. Obviously, I would like to," Rivera said.

"But in the same respect, to me the ultimate goal is to win. If you win enough, obviously, you should finish better than that. That's what we're hoping to do.

"I guess it goes back to having been a player in college and listening to these guys lose a game and say, 'Well, we just want to win the Pac-10.' Well, if you win the national championship, you win the Pac-10. That's the way I look at it. If you win the Super Bowl, you've done that. That's why I guess I try to look at the ultimate goal."

RECORD KEEPING: Two significant records could fall Saturday. Wide receiver Steve Smith needs five catches to surpass Muhsin Muhammad as the Panthers' all-time leader. Muhammad had 696 receptions, followed by Smith at 692 and Wesley Walls a distant third with 324.

Quarterback Cam Newton needs 18 passing yards to break Peyton Manning's rookie record of 3,739 set in 1998.

Also, running back Jonathan Stewart needs 4 yards to move into second on the team's all-time rushing list behind DeAngelo Williams. DeShaun Foster is second with 3,336 yards. Stewart also needs two catches to surpass Nick Goings' season record of 45 by a running back in 2004.

EYEING THE BUCS: What was supposed to have been a big season in Tampa Bay has turned into a bust. The Bucs have lost eight in a row coming to Charlotte. Offensive tackle Jordan Gross isn't expecting anything to be easy.

"Tampa's definitely going to be hungry for a win. They've had a tough skid lately," Gross said. "When we played them last time, we got the upper hand. So it's not going to be an easy game for us. They had an extra day of rest than we did. It's our last home game, so we definitely need to win."

STANDING TALL: Linebacker Jordan Senn was considered primarily a special teams player before the injuries that have gutted the Panthers' linebacking corps this season.

Forced into a prominent role on defense, Senn had his most productive game Sunday, piling up 14 tackles in the victory against the Texans. Though he's considered undersized for a linebacker at 5-foot-11 and 224 pounds, Senn has had a big impact.

"Each week he's stepped up, made plays and made things happen. He's been very consistent and he's put himself in position to make plays," Rivera said. "I think he's a very smart, intelligent young man. I think he's got a tremendous amount of football savvy. And he's a good athlete. It's a great combination.

"I think the one thing everybody's concerned (with) is he came from a small school (Portland State). He's not as tall or as big as other guys. But he plays to his ability, plays within the scheme and he plays smart. As we go forward, he's one of those guys that we'll most certainly take a nice, long hard look at because he's proven to be a guy that might be hard to keep off the field."

NOTES: Defensive end Charles Johnson (back) sat out practice Tuesday and Gross (ankle) was limited. Rivera indicated he expects both to play against Tampa Bay. ... The Panthers added safety Chip Vaughn to the practice squad, filling a hole created when center Jeff Byers was added to the 53-man roster last week. Vaughn is in his third season out of Wake Forest. ... Richie Brockel's "fumblerooskie" touchdown play was picked the No. 1 NFL play of the week by ESPN.
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#24 : December 22, 2011, 09:12:58 AM

Struggling Buccaneers rally around head coach

As the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' losing streak has stretched to eight games, the future of third-year coach Raheem Morris has come into question.

There have been rumors he will be asked to relinquish his defensive coordinator duties if he's allowed to return next season. After a 10-win season last year, dipping to 4-10 has been a major step backward.

Whatever changes, tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. wants to make sure Morris returns next season.

"Coach Morris...he's the best motivational guy I've been around. He gets his guys going. It's not (shown in) the won-loss column, but I've never been around anybody better than him. I really haven't. It sucks what's going on here, but we need him to carry on. We really need this. He is the main part of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We need that guy. I can't say enough about him.

"I think I'm speaking for the team. This is how everybody feels. They would give their right arm for this guy. We just need this guy. We didn't have a good season. Try to finish off the last two games but we need this guy to move on to the next year. We've got to move on from this year. He's just the heart of this team."

BEING CAREFUL: The announcement this week that the NFL will station a specialist in the press box each week to help teams monitor whether players have suffered possible concussions is another step in the league's emphasis on treating and preventing head injuries.

The latest step comes after Cleveland quarterback Colt McCoy suffered a concussion when hit by Pittsburgh's James Harrison. McCoy was allowed to return to the game though Browns doctors admitted they had not seen the direct hit because they were working on the team sideline.

"I think it's good. Me coming off a concussion this year, I think it's real important," safety Jordan Pugh said. "As players, you're trying to get back in the game any way possible. Sometimes you can do it at your own (risk). Having that outside source, an unbiased party, out there for your protection, that's good."

Wide receiver Steve Smith, who has had one concussion during his career, said the league is taking necessary steps to help the players.

"They have a lot of data that's saying how it impacts and what happens. It's a thing you can't just sweep under the rug and say, 'Well, we didn't have the accurate reading,' because of the long-term effects and the damages it has on people," Smith said.

"All these guys that are having these problems, they go back and examine their brain and see the long-term effects of concussions. So it's become a concerning issue that teams aren't - you can't fudge them anymore."

Tight end Greg Olsen said hard hits are part of the game in the NFL.

"At the end of the day, everybody here knows what we signed up for. I know it's the league covering us. We appreciate them trying to look out for guys - and they should," Olsen said.

"But at the same point, no one should really feel sorry for us because at the end of the day, if you don't want to play and risk that future injury and health, no one's forcing you to play. Not that I want to go out and get cheap-shotted and knocked unconscious. But if you're playing within the framework of the rules - the way they have them designed now - the rest you kind of take as just comes with the territory."

BROTHERLY ADVICE: Last week, Southern Cal junior offensive tackle Matt Kalil announced he will forego his senior season to enter the NFL draft. Expected to be a top-10 draft choice, the younger Kalil talked with his brother, Panthers center Ryan Kalil, before making his decision.

"He called me and asked me a lot of questions," Ryan Kalil said. "I tried not to influence his decision one way or the other. I just gave him the facts.

"I gave him as much advice as he wanted and tried to ultimately make sure he made the decision himself because that's a big decision. I want to make sure it's one that he's proud of and happy with for the rest of his life, not 'my brother told me to or didn't tell me to.' "

INJURY UPDATE: Cornerback Captain Munnerlyn (hamstring) and safety Charles Godfrey (shoulder) remain the most serious injury concerns, coach Ron Rivera said.

Neither practiced Wednesday when the team worked out indoors at the Charlotte Convention Center. Rivera said it was too early to know the status of either Munnerlyn or Godfrey. Should Munnerlyn miss the game, R.J. Stanford would move into his starting spot with Pugh stepping in for Godfrey.

Offensive tackle Jordan Gross (ankle) and defensive tackle Charles Johnson (back) also missed the Wednesday practice, and tight end Jeremy Shockey was given the day off.

With a Saturday game, Rivera said the team will get in its usual amount of practice because it worked out Tuesday, typically a day off. Despite working indoors Wednesday, Rivera said the team got in the same work it would have done had it been outside.

"That was the first time I ever practiced in a ballroom," Pugh said. "But that's a new experience you can chalk up on the board."

PRO BOWL UPDATE: Cam Newton remains in third place in fan voting for NFC Pro Bowl quarterback, well behind Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers and New Orleans' Drew Brees. Smith is fifth in voting for NFC wide receivers.

The fan vote counts for one-third of the total that will determine which players make the Pro Bowl. Players and coaches will vote this week and results will be announced Dec. 27.


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#25 : December 22, 2011, 09:40:49 AM

The Panther's fans are concerned that most of their wins have come against either backups or rookie Qbs. Sounds familiar to our 10-6 season last year.

Forget the draft position, it would be a good thing for the Bucs 2012 confidence if they win these last two. Pipe dream, of course, but this time we have Freeman starting, no Josh Johnson.

http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Panthers-Insider/20bc4a96-2427-4078-bb77-4371cdd27aa7

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#26 : December 22, 2011, 12:32:04 PM

Kid is full of confidence and is having one great season.....you have to wonder why our guy can't hit open receivers like he does.



Mostly because our guys arnt open and when they are the defense is right in Freemans face.

Wrong. That is the assumption....it's clearly not a fact. You can't blame everyone around him. Freeman has been horrible. Hopefully he doesn't suck next year, but lets stop making excuses for him. I think he will be much improved with a better offensive system next year and an offseason.

Most WR's aren't open based on what I am seeing this year with the Bucs.

The two most reliable WR's have been cast aside on offense (Spurlock and Sammie).

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#27 : December 23, 2011, 05:21:08 AM

Bucs may look like different team with Freeman back




With Josh Freeman back at quarterback after missing Tampa Bay's first game against the Panthers, coach Ron Rivera said it's likely to alter the Bucs' play-calling.

With Freeman, who was replaced by Josh Johnson in the Panthers' 38-19 win three weeks ago, the Bucs are more likely to throw more deep passes, particularly if the Panthers' secondary is missing strong safety Charles Godfrey and cornerback Captain Munnerlyn.

Rivera said it's critical that the Panthers not let what happened three weeks ago in Tampa lull them in a false sense of security.

"The big thing is we can't be complacent," Rivera said. "This team has too many good football players. I know their record is not indicative of the type of talent they have and not indicative of the way they were playing last season."

Juggling two jobs: Nearing the end of his first season as a head coach, Rivera said it's difficult to think of also being a defensive coordinator, a role Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris holds.

He said it can be done but it's not easy.

"I've watched some offensive guys do it and do it very successfully and I've watched Norv Turner do it very, very well," Rivera said.

"As I look at it, I think you can (do it) but now having gone through what I did go through this year, boy, it would be awfully hard to do everything good and everything right. Maybe once you got settled in, you could do it and be very effective. That's an interesting question."

While there has been speculation that Morris may be asked to surrender his coordinator role if he returns next season, the third-year coach won't dwell on the season's many disappointments.

"It's about mentally tough men when you're talking about football," Morris said. "People outside the building, none of that stuff really matters. The only thing that really matters is the 61 men I coach including the practice squad, the administration, the ownership and the coaching staff."

"We all believe in what we do. Last year, I led us to 10 wins. This year unfortunately, we didn't have the same amount of success."


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#28 : December 24, 2011, 11:11:24 AM

is there even any interest in this game?

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#29 : December 24, 2011, 11:20:33 AM

is there even any interest in this game?
Fantasy football purposes?
I'll be watching even though I might not like it lol.

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