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: December 27, 2011, 09:24:13 PM

December 27, 2011
Why Americans Support Voter ID Laws

By Jack Kelly
The state chairman of Indiana's Democratic Party resigned recently as a probe of election fraud in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary widened.

State law requires a presidential candidate to gather 500 valid signatures in each county to qualify for the ballot. Barack Obama may not have met it. Investigators think 150 of the 534 signatures the Obama campaign turned in for St. Joseph County may have been forged.

Yet Democrats say that measures to guard against vote fraud are racist Republican plots to disenfranchise minority voters.

Republicans "want to literally drag us back to Jim Crow laws," said Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, D-Fla, chair of the Democratic National Committee.

The NAACP has asked the United Nations to intervene to block state voter ID laws. It may have an ulterior motive for opposing ballot security measures. An NAACP official was convicted on 10 counts of absentee voter fraud in Tunica County, Miss., in July.

Former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, who is black, said vote fraud is rampant in African-American districts like his in Alabama.

"The most aggressive contemporary voter suppression in the African-American community is the wholesale manufacture of ballots at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt," Mr. Davis said. "Voting the names of the dead, and the nonexistent, and the too mentally impaired to function cancels out the votes of citizens who are exercising their rights."

Laws requiring photo IDs suppress minority voting, Democrats charge. The facts say otherwise. In Georgia, black voter turnout for the midterm election in 2006 was 42.9 percent. After Georgia passed photo ID, black turnout in the 2010 midterm rose to 50.4 percent. Black turnout also rose in Indiana and Mississippi after photo IDs were required.

"Concerns about voter identification laws affecting turnout are much ado about nothing," concluded researchers at the universities of Delaware and Nebraska after examining election data from 2000 through 2006.

You need a photo ID to get on an airplane or an Amtrak train; to open a bank account, withdraw money from it, or cash a check; to pick up movie and concert tickets; to go into a federal building; to buy alcohol and to apply for food stamps.

Most Americans don't think it's a hardship to ask voters to produce one. A Rasmussen poll in June indicated 75 percent of respondents support photo ID requirements. Huge majorities of Hispanics support voter ID laws, according to a Resurgent Republic poll in September.

This year there have been investigations, indictments or convictions for vote fraud in California, Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina and Maryland. In all but one case, the alleged fraudsters were Democrats.

In none would the fraud alleged have altered a major election, Democrats note. But in the Illinois gubernatorial election in 1982, 100,000 votes cast in Chicago -- 10 percent of the total -- were fraudulent, the U.S. attorney there estimated.

Fraud of the magnitude which swings elections typically combines absentee ballot fraud and voter registration fraud. At least 55 employees or associates of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now have been convicted of registration fraud in 11 states, says Matthew Vadum of the Capital Research Center, who's written a book about ACORN.

Of 1.3 million new registrations ACORN turned in in 2008, election officials rejected 400,000.

"There is no question about the legitimacy or importance of a state's interest in counting only eligible voters' votes," wrote liberal Justice John Paul Stevens for a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court's 2008 decision upholding Indiana's ID law, the toughest in the nation.

In a speech Tuesday at the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library at the University of Texas, Attorney General Eric Holder announced a full scale assault on the laws the Supreme Court said are constitutional and necessary.

Mr. Holder -- who apparently won't prosecute violations of the Voting Rights Act if the victims are white -- picked an appropriate venue for his attack on the integrity of the ballot. LBJ stole his first election to the Senate, according to one of his biographers.

A recent Gallup poll indicates why Mr. Holder is trying so hard to gut ballot security measures. Mr. Obama trails in all swing states. Democrats fear they can't win next year unless they cheat.

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And the interesting part is the number of Americans who feel proof of identity is a good idea - geez AG Holder - you gotta do better.  And the bold type was done by me...
: December 27, 2011, 09:28:48 PM dbucfan

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#1 : December 27, 2011, 09:28:35 PM

And the hits just keep on coming...whats next?...OBD


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#2 : December 27, 2011, 11:24:31 PM

And the hits just keep on coming...whats next?...OBD

What do you mean by that OBD?

IMO Holder is the most political AG I have seen. His directive seems to be totally to support the Whitehouse rather than the laws of the land or the Constitution, with what appears to be a bout of payback thrown in.

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#3 : December 27, 2011, 11:44:26 PM

I see nothing wrong w/ identity verification. However, we have to be careful because the problem arises when that ID costs money to obtain. That, in effect, would be a poll tax, which of course is unconstitutional.

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#4 : December 28, 2011, 12:46:02 AM

I see nothing wrong w/ identity verification. However, we have to be careful because the problem arises when that ID costs money to obtain. That, in effect, would be a poll tax, which of course is unconstitutional.

So is the requirement of a photo ID to drive and own a car an "undue burden" on minorities?
Is the requirement of a photo ID to fly on a plane a car an "undue burden" on minorities?
Is the requirement of a photo ID to get a job  an "undue burden" on minorities?


It's got nothing to do with burden at all.  The people who commit fraud on a scale that is impactful are the people with political machines capable of it.  The only places one party has those machines are small enough they don't need or benefit from fraud.  The other party has them in every major city.  And it's all about protecting that party.

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#5 : December 28, 2011, 12:28:06 PM

What is at issue here is voting. It is unconstitutional to establish a poll tax in order to vote. If one is actually interested in finding out, take a look at the law in Wisconsin as an example which provides for this. A WI resident seeking to acquire ID for voting purposes can receive one at no charge to comply w/ the 24th amendment.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/idcard.htm

However, that too is being challenged as violating equal protection under the law.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-13/wisconsin-voter-id-law-imposes-unconstitutional-burden-aclu-says-in-suit.html

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#6 : December 28, 2011, 01:25:44 PM

so the NAACP is asking the UN to intervene against the states?  what has this country come to?


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#7 : December 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM

What is at issue here is voting. It is unconstitutional to establish a poll tax in order to vote. If one is actually interested in finding out, take a look at the law in Wisconsin as an example which provides for this. A WI resident seeking to acquire ID for voting purposes can receive one at no charge to comply w/ the 24th amendment.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/drivers/apply/idcard.htm

However, that too is being challenged as violating equal protection under the law.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-13/wisconsin-voter-id-law-imposes-unconstitutional-burden-aclu-says-in-suit.html
So free isn't good enough... perhaps if people were paid to register to vote...

I am joking...as that has already been done...

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#8 : December 29, 2011, 08:33:22 PM

ANYTHING to advance the votes of the weak, lazy, stupid, unproductive and/or illegal because they vote Democrat.

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#9 : December 30, 2011, 05:02:38 PM

ANYTHING to advance the votes of the weak, lazy, stupid, unproductive and/or illegal because they vote Democrat.
I vote democrat and don't resemble any of those attributes...OBD


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#10 : December 30, 2011, 05:08:36 PM

ANYTHING to advance the votes of the weak, lazy, stupid, unproductive and/or illegal because they vote Democrat.
I vote democrat and don't resemble any of those attributes...OBD
Look around - while both sides have their own little games, the article identifies some elements of he Democratic program that might have gone professional in voter fraud activity...

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#11 : December 30, 2011, 05:12:57 PM

ANYTHING to advance the votes of the weak, lazy, stupid, unproductive and/or illegal because they vote Democrat.
I vote democrat and don't resemble any of those attributes...OBD
Look around - while both sides have their own little games, the article identifies some elements of he Democratic program that might have gone professional in voter fraud activity...
I know and agree with you from the voter fraud to the reshaping of voter districts...and they think we average people don't notice...We do at the Voting Booths...but that is our little secret till we get to the booths...OBD


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#12 : December 30, 2011, 05:46:35 PM

ANYTHING to advance the votes of the weak, lazy, stupid, unproductive and/or illegal because they vote Democrat.
I vote democrat and don't resemble any of those attributes...OBD
Look around - while both sides have their own little games, the article identifies some elements of he Democratic program that might have gone professional in voter fraud activity...
I know and agree with you from the voter fraud to the reshaping of voter districts...and they think we average people don't notice...We do at the Voting Booths...but that is our little secret till we get to the booths...OBD
The altering of districts is required, and the dirtiest business ... right up to those charges about the hundreds of thousands of fraudulent voters... what was it like 400,000 through that Acorn group - whatever there name was then or now.... I don't know how that isn't a huge issue RIGHT NOW....

\"A Great Coach has to have a Patient Wife, A Loyal Dog, and a Great Quarterback. . . . but not necessarily in that order\" ~ Coach Bud Grant
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