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« #75 : January 04, 2012, 02:32:06 PM »

Has his interview been confirmed?

Going into year 5 and our QB is still stuck in his rookie learning curve!!!

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« #76 : January 04, 2012, 02:33:10 PM »

The last I've heard was that they were working on scheduling an interview.


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« #77 : January 04, 2012, 03:33:54 PM »

Thanks 3SK!

Going into year 5 and our QB is still stuck in his rookie learning curve!!!

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« #78 : January 04, 2012, 07:34:01 PM »

Per PewterPlank:
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Don’t Count on Jeff Fisher to be the Next Coach of the Bucs
AUTHOR: Patrik Nohe

Fisher is not likely to coach the Bucs, though that's not necessarily a bad thing...

Over the past few days perhaps the biggest name on the coaching market has been Jeff Fisher. Fisher is an extremely experienced coach who spent the better part of two decades in Tennessee and Houston coaching the Titans (once Oilers). With Bill Cowher being coy about whether he wants to coach again and Jon Gruden having already been fired in Tampa once, it’s Fisher who has been built up into the ideal head coaching candidate.
Unfortunately, or fortunately as I’ll get to, Fisher won’t be coaching next year in Tampa.
Right now, per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Fisher is trying to decide between the St. Louis Rams and the Miami Dolphins, the Bucs are not really even on his radar.
Though that may seem undesirable, I’ll let you in on a little secret, Jeff Fisher is not the coach he’s being made out to be. He’s not what the Buccaneers need. I’m not talking about his record or his playoff appearances either, no I’m talking about the fact that the Buccaneers need a coach who is going to come into their young locker-room and put the hammer down. Fisher is not that guy.
Now I know a lot of people want to believe that he is the ideal hire and would take Tampa to a place of legitimacy. They may point out his experience with mobile quarterbacks and working under a GM to support that argument. But the truth is Jeff Fisher has never really been the kind of authoritarian coach that fans the league over are crediting him for being.
A lot of players ran wild during Fisher’s tenure as head coach. To name a few, Vince Young more or less put Fisher on the hot seat himself, Adam “Pac Man” Jones began his bad behavior in Tennessee, Albert Haynesworth caused all sorts of problems for him before the Titans let him walk in free agency (remember before the holdouts and griping how Haynesworth stomped on Andre Gurode’s head? Yeah several years later that was under control…), not to mention numerous other agitators that were allowed to disrupt the Titans’ locker-room.
That is not what the Bucs need. This Buccaneers locker-room has more than a few players who are capable of acting out or embarrassing the team, in his history as a coach Fisher has not been terribly successful in handling those sorts of situations.
What about Fisher’s handling of Adam Jones gives Bucs fans confidence he would deal with Aqib Talib any better? Jones left the Titans not after Fisher grew fed up and dismissed him, but after Roger Goodell finally came down on him with a major suspension. I’m not saying Fisher isn’t capable of disciplining players, I’m just saying if you look at the situations that he faced over his tenure as a head coach I don’t think his body of work really indicates he has been good doing so in the past. That’s not opinion so much as what we’ve seen.
That’s not good when the Bucs are currently dealing with culture issue in their own locker-room. Right now the Bucs are a selfish team. And the last several years of Fisher’s tenure in Tennessee were marred by a team filled with selfish players with individual interests. Based on his last performance, he seems to let selfish players just continue being selfish.
Think about Chris Johnson, Vince Young, Pac-Man and Haynesworth, all superstars whose egos swelled to disruptive, even counter-productive proportions under Fisher.
Maybe he’ll be better in his next job, but that’s taking a big chance with a young, headstrong roster like the Buccaneers have.
Ironically one of the first personnel decisions he’ll have to make should he become the head coach of the Bucs (which he won’t), would be what to do (once again) with Albert Haynesworth.
The point is that Jeff Fisher is not likely to come coach in Tampa, but that’s not a bad thing either.
He was never the ideal fit.

Good article....may have changed my mind regarding wanting Fisher as our HC....

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« #79 : January 04, 2012, 08:13:19 PM »

Per PewterPlank:
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Don’t Count on Jeff Fisher to be the Next Coach of the Bucs
AUTHOR: Patrik Nohe

Fisher is not likely to coach the Bucs, though that's not necessarily a bad thing...

Over the past few days perhaps the biggest name on the coaching market has been Jeff Fisher. Fisher is an extremely experienced coach who spent the better part of two decades in Tennessee and Houston coaching the Titans (once Oilers). With Bill Cowher being coy about whether he wants to coach again and Jon Gruden having already been fired in Tampa once, it’s Fisher who has been built up into the ideal head coaching candidate.
Unfortunately, or fortunately as I’ll get to, Fisher won’t be coaching next year in Tampa.
Right now, per ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Fisher is trying to decide between the St. Louis Rams and the Miami Dolphins, the Bucs are not really even on his radar.
Though that may seem undesirable, I’ll let you in on a little secret, Jeff Fisher is not the coach he’s being made out to be. He’s not what the Buccaneers need. I’m not talking about his record or his playoff appearances either, no I’m talking about the fact that the Buccaneers need a coach who is going to come into their young locker-room and put the hammer down. Fisher is not that guy.
Now I know a lot of people want to believe that he is the ideal hire and would take Tampa to a place of legitimacy. They may point out his experience with mobile quarterbacks and working under a GM to support that argument. But the truth is Jeff Fisher has never really been the kind of authoritarian coach that fans the league over are crediting him for being.
A lot of players ran wild during Fisher’s tenure as head coach. To name a few, Vince Young more or less put Fisher on the hot seat himself, Adam “Pac Man” Jones began his bad behavior in Tennessee, Albert Haynesworth caused all sorts of problems for him before the Titans let him walk in free agency (remember before the holdouts and griping how Haynesworth stomped on Andre Gurode’s head? Yeah several years later that was under control…), not to mention numerous other agitators that were allowed to disrupt the Titans’ locker-room.
That is not what the Bucs need. This Buccaneers locker-room has more than a few players who are capable of acting out or embarrassing the team, in his history as a coach Fisher has not been terribly successful in handling those sorts of situations.
What about Fisher’s handling of Adam Jones gives Bucs fans confidence he would deal with Aqib Talib any better? Jones left the Titans not after Fisher grew fed up and dismissed him, but after Roger Goodell finally came down on him with a major suspension. I’m not saying Fisher isn’t capable of disciplining players, I’m just saying if you look at the situations that he faced over his tenure as a head coach I don’t think his body of work really indicates he has been good doing so in the past. That’s not opinion so much as what we’ve seen.
That’s not good when the Bucs are currently dealing with culture issue in their own locker-room. Right now the Bucs are a selfish team. And the last several years of Fisher’s tenure in Tennessee were marred by a team filled with selfish players with individual interests. Based on his last performance, he seems to let selfish players just continue being selfish.
Think about Chris Johnson, Vince Young, Pac-Man and Haynesworth, all superstars whose egos swelled to disruptive, even counter-productive proportions under Fisher.
Maybe he’ll be better in his next job, but that’s taking a big chance with a young, headstrong roster like the Buccaneers have.
Ironically one of the first personnel decisions he’ll have to make should he become the head coach of the Bucs (which he won’t), would be what to do (once again) with Albert Haynesworth.
The point is that Jeff Fisher is not likely to come coach in Tampa, but that’s not a bad thing either.
He was never the ideal fit.

Good article....may have changed my mind regarding wanting Fisher as our HC....

Damn. That's an awesome article. Definitely eye-opening and makes me think about things a little differently as far as Fisher's concerned.

Mike Sherman never really had any disciplinary problems with his players did he?

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« #80 : January 04, 2012, 08:14:32 PM »

Would rather have this guy any day over fisher


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« #81 : January 04, 2012, 08:15:57 PM »

The more I think about Fisher the less I want him here.

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« #82 : January 04, 2012, 08:17:27 PM »

Good post bucd...I've kind of grown sour of Fisher in Tampa as well.

Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #83 : January 04, 2012, 08:19:52 PM »

Excellent article.....forgot about the whole Vince Yound debacle.......

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« #84 : January 04, 2012, 08:20:05 PM »

Man, that article definitely opened my eyes on Fisher. I still like him and think he would be an awesome hire...just because it means the Glazers are willing to spend money to bring the Bucs back to the glory days. However, this is not a good sign. Also hearing about Billick and how he comes off as an egomaniac...ehh I didn't know about that as well.

Russ Grimm...Mike Zimmer....or Les Miles please.


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« #85 : January 04, 2012, 08:23:50 PM »

I'm interested to see what could go down with this new Zimmer hype. I think he'd be out best choice. I'm also not going to count out Gray either he's a sleeper in my opinion.


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« #86 : January 04, 2012, 08:24:41 PM »

Gray won't be the choice.

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