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#30 : January 03, 2012, 10:45:51 PM

every coach we hire will be mired in mediocrity.  there are no perfect coaches.

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#31 : January 03, 2012, 10:48:50 PM

HOU 1994 1 5 0 .167 4th in AFC Central - - - -
HOU 1995 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC Central - - - -
HOU 1996 8 8 0 .500 4th in AFC Central - - - -
TEN 1997 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC Central - - - -
TEN 1998 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC Central -
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TEN 1999 13 3 0 .813 2nd in AFC Central
TEN 2000 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC Central 0 1 .
TEN 2001 7 9 0 .438 4th in AFC Central - - - -
TEN 2002 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC South 1 1 .500
TEN 2003 12 4 0 .750 2nd in AFC South 1 1 .50
TEN 2004 5 11 0 .313 3rd in AFC South - - - -
TEN 2005 4 12 0 .250 3rd in AFC South - - - -
TEN 2006 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC South - - - -
TEN 2007 10 6 0 .625 3rd in AFC South 0 1 .
TEN 2008 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC South 0
TEN 2009 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC South - - - -

TEN 2010 6 10 0 .375
17 years and never more than 2 consecutive winning seasons. Career .542 and post season win% of .455 I'll pass.

I do find it hilarious that people keep mentioning he only had 6 winning seasons out of his 17 like its a bad thing.  Did you guys know that he only had 6 losing seasons out of 17.  Kind of shows him in a different light, no?

For a team that has averaged 5-6 wins the past 3 years, I'd gladly take that 9 win average Fisher boast for a chance at the playoffs.
I hate that kind of talk, and it happens all the time.  Ppl gladly accept resigning themselves to mediocrity just because its slightly better than what they had to de with before.

When you draft as poorly as the Bucs do, have one of the lowest payrolls for the past 5 years, and don't have Brady, Rodgers, or Brees; I think we were awful selfish to hope for more than mediocrity out of our Bucs.  We didn't like it with Dungy, so we go and get Gruden, who spoiled us one year with the Bowl, then got us back to mediocrity.  So the Owners figured, he'll let's make them so bad, that they long for 9 win seasons again.

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#32 : January 03, 2012, 10:50:00 PM

I'd gladly take that 9 win average Fisher boast for a chance at the playoffs.

Just want to have a competitive team right now as well - just like Dungy days.

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#33 : January 03, 2012, 10:53:51 PM

every coach we hire will be mired in mediocrity.  there are no perfect coaches.

Gruden was the closest to a perfect coach this team ever had.


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#34 : January 03, 2012, 10:54:15 PM

parcells hasnt won a playoff game in over 20 years.  and that includes 12 seasons.  and he sure didnt do much in miami.

Unless Parcells figured out a way to get to the Super Bowl without winning a playoff game the above statement would be incorrect.

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#35 : January 03, 2012, 10:57:45 PM

I'd gladly take that 9 win average Fisher boast for a chance at the playoffs.

Just want to have a competitive team right now as well - just like Dungy days.

Well and again, as young as we are if we get the "mediocre" coach like Sherman/Fisher/whoever else is unacceptable to the daydreamers there is still time to hire THAT guy to put us over the top. Like you said, we have to get right with ball before we can worry about super bowls. I'd like to know that our next coach can field an NFL level team in terms of prep and strategy.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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#36 : January 03, 2012, 11:04:55 PM

Unless Parcells figured out a way to get to the Super Bowl without winning a playoff game the above statement would be incorrect.

good catch.  parcells hasnt won a playoff game in 14 years and 5 seasons as a coach.

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#37 : January 03, 2012, 11:08:31 PM

17 seasons and only 5 playoff appearances...enough said. ???

11 of those 17 seasons he was .500 or better

5 of those 11 were at .500 the rest were well above it.


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#38 : January 03, 2012, 11:15:38 PM

Mike Shermans record
2000 9-7
2001 12-4 playoffs
2002 12-4 playoffs
2003 10-6 playoffs
2004 10-6 playoffs
2005  4-12

Now there's your consistency. Anyone defending Fisher's record but not Sherman's doesn't want consistency IMHO. They just like the guy but as far as records go, it's no contest.

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#39 : January 03, 2012, 11:17:07 PM

It's pretty easy to have consistent winning when you have Brett Favre in his prime at QB.


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#40 : January 03, 2012, 11:25:15 PM

It's pretty easy to have consistent winning when you have Brett Favre in his prime at QB.

Ah, the old it's not the coach it's the players excuse. Funny that it didn't work for the Jets or Minnesota. It didn't work for McCarthy in 2006 either.

Since people want to say that team success isn't based on the coaching then why should failure be? Look at the lack of talent we had. If coaching doesn't matter, why fire Morris or can coaches only make a team worse not better? I don't get the double standard.

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#41 : January 03, 2012, 11:28:06 PM

It's pretty easy to have consistent winning when you have Brett Favre in his prime at QB.

Name me a consistent coach you really like then and tell me what not good QB's he has rolling for him.

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#42 : January 03, 2012, 11:35:12 PM

It's pretty easy to have consistent winning when you have Brett Favre in his prime at QB.

Name me a consistent coach you really like then and tell me what not good QB's he has rolling for him.

Well, Brian Billick only had 3 losing seasons out of nine in Baltimore and one of them was 7-9. He also has a Super Bowl for good measure. He won that with Trent Dilfer.

Just saying.

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#43 : January 04, 2012, 01:13:22 AM

trent dilfer and one of the greatest defenses ever, right?

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#44 : January 04, 2012, 01:18:09 AM

It's pretty easy to have consistent winning when you have Brett Favre in his prime at QB.

Name me a consistent coach you really like then and tell me what not good QB's he has rolling for him.

Don Shula had some pretty lame QB's over the years before he got Marino.


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