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Trent Richardson is Carnell part 2.
Quote from: MasterC25 on January 09, 2012, 04:36:54 PMQuote from: JavaRay on January 09, 2012, 04:12:58 PMYou don't pass on a guy like Adrian Peterson just because some scrub undrafted free agents have big stats behind solid offensive lines. And you don't pass on Richardson either.I agree 100% with you, but Arian Foster is NO scrub. Living in Houston, I too at one time felt he was overrated because of the "scheme" at one time until I saw him in person against the steelers this yr. His moves, balance and vision is just special, youre either born with it or your not. Washington and Green bay both run the zone-blocking scheme and none of either of those teams backs or Houston's backups *cough* Derrick ward look anything like Foster. That man is the real deal! "Poetry in Motion" is what they call him around here.I think it's a little of the the both, overall that Texans O-line is solid and Duane Brown is underrated,but you're right Foster is no scrub.
Quote from: JavaRay on January 09, 2012, 04:12:58 PMYou don't pass on a guy like Adrian Peterson just because some scrub undrafted free agents have big stats behind solid offensive lines. And you don't pass on Richardson either.I agree 100% with you, but Arian Foster is NO scrub. Living in Houston, I too at one time felt he was overrated because of the "scheme" at one time until I saw him in person against the steelers this yr. His moves, balance and vision is just special, youre either born with it or your not. Washington and Green bay both run the zone-blocking scheme and none of either of those teams backs or Houston's backups *cough* Derrick ward look anything like Foster. That man is the real deal! "Poetry in Motion" is what they call him around here.
You don't pass on a guy like Adrian Peterson just because some scrub undrafted free agents have big stats behind solid offensive lines. And you don't pass on Richardson either.
Quote from: The Anti-Java on January 09, 2012, 04:49:35 PMTrent Richardson is Carnell part 2.How are they in any way similar?
Quote from: buchead on January 09, 2012, 04:43:01 PMIve been saying all along for everybody calling this guy the next Adrian Peterson.(not fast enough and not as powerful to be AP) What have the vikings won since drafting AP? 1 playoff game and that was due to Brett Farve having the luckiest season of his career.I was looking at RBs selected in the top 5 since 2000, I think Jamal lewis is the only to win Super Bowl.
Ive been saying all along for everybody calling this guy the next Adrian Peterson.(not fast enough and not as powerful to be AP) What have the vikings won since drafting AP? 1 playoff game and that was due to Brett Farve having the luckiest season of his career.
Quote from: bucsquad on January 09, 2012, 04:45:59 PMQuote from: buchead on January 09, 2012, 04:43:01 PMIve been saying all along for everybody calling this guy the next Adrian Peterson.(not fast enough and not as powerful to be AP) What have the vikings won since drafting AP? 1 playoff game and that was due to Brett Farve having the luckiest season of his career.I was looking at RBs selected in the top 5 since 2000, I think Jamal lewis is the only to win Super Bowl.Well, you have Reggie Bush. And in fairness, the list of RBs selected in the top 5 since 2000 is pretty darned short. It's what, a half dozen players or so, and half of those in the terrible 2005 draft? I'm not sure it's actually markedly worse than most other positions.
The only reason that I'm for drafting Richardson is that he is great in the passing game, would be a weapon for Freeman, and he is a very safe pick. Everyone bashes on Richardson, but if Blackmon and Kalil are not there who do you want? a cover CB who can't tackle? That's really going to help one of the worst Run D's in the league. The only way I'd be on board with Claiborne is if a big time weapon for Freeman (like DeSean Jackson) was added in Free Agency. Otherwise you have to get the pieces around Freeman to see if he can get it done. If the Bucs can't get any legitimate receiving weapons in Free Agency they have to do it in the draft. If Blackmon is gone I would even consider Kendall Wright at #5 (yes, yes, obviously you'd love to trade down if you can) but Richardson is the safer pick.
Quote from: traew01 on January 09, 2012, 04:21:07 PMCan you get lucky and find quality backs in later rounds, yes you can. The same can be said for other positions as well.But if there is a potential star running back available - you dont justify not selecting him because other teams have gotten lucky finding backs in later rounds. That is idiocy. Presumably, if they draft Claiborne there (for example), it will be because the legitimately believe that he's going to be a star CB. That's actually a somewhat separate argument though, as I'm not at all certain where cornerbacks actually fall on the draft round-positional value spectrum.
Can you get lucky and find quality backs in later rounds, yes you can. The same can be said for other positions as well.But if there is a potential star running back available - you dont justify not selecting him because other teams have gotten lucky finding backs in later rounds. That is idiocy.