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#30 : January 18, 2012, 10:52:14 AM

Right guy with no coordinators leads to another ho hum season.  Lets hope they wrap it up soon.

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#31 : January 18, 2012, 11:21:51 AM

The flaw in the argument is that it's "one guy".  Getting the right HC is very important, but it's just as important to have the right OC and DC.  Waiting too long to select your HC can impact your ability to bring on the best support staff.

Keep in mind that the Bucs already know who the OC and DC's these guys plan to bring on board are going to be. I suspect they are well aware of the deadline.

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#32 : January 18, 2012, 11:40:22 AM

The longer the search goes, the greater possibility of NOT getting the guy you want.



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#33 : January 18, 2012, 11:43:27 AM

The flaw in the argument is that it's "one guy".  Getting the right HC is very important, but it's just as important to have the right OC and DC.  Waiting too long to select your HC can impact your ability to bring on the best support staff.

Keep in mind that the Bucs already know who the OC and DC's these guys plan to bring on board are going to be. I suspect they are well aware of the deadline.
let's say Marty has Hue Jackson down as his OC.  Jackson got his first NFL job from Marty so it isn't out of left field.  well now we hear Jackson is being interviewed by St. Louis.  Can't blame the guy.  He needs a job and those OC ones pay like a million diollars a year. 


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#34 : January 18, 2012, 11:57:46 AM

One things for sure.......we'll have our pick from the relics Schathammer, Sherman, and Childress................no other team in the NFL  has contacted any of that glob of waste...

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#35 : January 18, 2012, 11:59:50 AM

The flaw in the argument is that it's "one guy".  Getting the right HC is very important, but it's just as important to have the right OC and DC.  Waiting too long to select your HC can impact your ability to bring on the best support staff.

Keep in mind that the Bucs already know who the OC and DC's these guys plan to bring on board are going to be. I suspect they are well aware of the deadline.

Nothing is preventing those guys from signing elsewhere in the meantime


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#36 : January 18, 2012, 12:00:20 PM

I understand the hypothetical S&B.

The point is, the Glazers know the specifics - they understand who the coach wants, and whether they are being interviewed. Just because they haven't announced it to the world doesn't mean they aren't aware of these issues.

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#37 : January 18, 2012, 12:11:04 PM

I understand the hypothetical S&B.

The point is, the Glazers know the specifics - they understand who the coach wants, and whether they are being interviewed. Just because they haven't announced it to the world doesn't mean they aren't aware of these issues.

What? Are you sitting in on the negotiations? If not, then go back to Port Tampa...........

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#38 : January 18, 2012, 12:24:56 PM


deadzone, it's called common sense.

You can call the Glazers cheap or hurl other names at them, but the fact is that they've hired multiple coaches. The idea that they interviewed several candidates and haven't asked them about a potential staff and are unaware that other teams might be calling these people is absurd.

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#39 : January 18, 2012, 03:04:50 PM

Any head coaching candidate worth his salt has a number of viable options for potential coordinators.

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#40 : January 18, 2012, 03:06:21 PM

Any head coaching candidate worth his salt has a number of viable options for potential coordinators.


They have to be available.  The longer the search takes, the less likely they will be available.


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#41 : January 18, 2012, 03:22:35 PM

Any head coaching candidate worth his salt has a number of viable options for potential coordinators.


They have to be available.  The longer the search takes, the less likely they will be available.

Who are all these available coordinators though? By my count Spags and Hue Jackson are he most notable candidates. A lot of the other candidates are position coaches who will only be released from contract if they receive a HC position. Most everyone else ou there is 'out there' because thy got canned. It's gonna be slim pickings if you're looking for qualified coordinators either way you look at it.

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#42 : January 18, 2012, 04:02:44 PM

Java exaggerates how good Gruden was.
Others exaggerate how bad he is.
Good grief. Gruden's not coming back! In 10 years are we still going to be Gru spinning?
Offensive ranking is overrated. By the same token, he didn't win a playoff game his last six years here.
Best thing in this thread is what bradentonian said; you don't rush into a decision, but by the same token if you take too long it's made for you.
Gimme Schotty or Zimmer and let's get this show on the road.

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#43 : January 18, 2012, 04:04:09 PM

Any head coaching candidate worth his salt has a number of viable options for potential coordinators.


They have to be available.  The longer the search takes, the less likely they will be available.

Who are all these available coordinators though? By my count Spags and Hue Jackson are he most notable candidates. A lot of the other candidates are position coaches who will only be released from contract if they receive a HC position. Most everyone else ou there is 'out there' because thy got canned. It's gonna be slim pickings if you're looking for qualified coordinators either way you look at it.


All the more reason to get them locked down quickly


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#44 : January 18, 2012, 06:18:47 PM

Any head coaching candidate worth his salt has a number of viable options for potential coordinators.


They have to be available.  The longer the search takes, the less likely they will be available.

Who are all these available coordinators though? By my count Spags and Hue Jackson are he most notable candidates. A lot of the other candidates are position coaches who will only be released from contract if they receive a HC position. Most everyone else ou there is 'out there' because thy got canned. It's gonna be slim pickings if you're looking for qualified coordinators either way you look at it.


All the more reason to get them locked down quickly

Got it, good point. Still you have to believe that these candidates have already fleshed out their staffs along with the offensive/defensive philosophies, personnel, etc with the front office during the interviews. Not to mention, some of the candidates themselves would be inclined to come on board as coordinators (Chilly being the first example). Then there's the college ranks, our HC prospects have all type of contacts, let's let them get their own staff together if they're the right HC. We can't just choose them or expect them to take whatever the FO hires. They shoul rightfully have significant input on their staff.
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