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Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
Change out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.
Quote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 01:49:35 AMChange out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.Bucs had a Horrible run defense and Forston is a good player from miami that could help in the inside as a rotating DT keeping Price and McCoy fresh
Quote from: wyla86 on January 18, 2012, 02:14:09 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 01:49:35 AMChange out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.Bucs had a Horrible run defense and Forston is a good player from miami that could help in the inside as a rotating DT keeping Price and McCoy freshThat horrible run defense can be contributed to injuries at DT and piss poor LB play. If we stay in the 4-3, I good with McCoy, Price, Haynesworth(if he restructres) and getting a FA to fill the 4th DT spot. Ryan Broyles if available in the 5th would be an absolute steal IMO.
Quote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 09:30:34 AMQuote from: wyla86 on January 18, 2012, 02:14:09 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 01:49:35 AMChange out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.Bucs had a Horrible run defense and Forston is a good player from miami that could help in the inside as a rotating DT keeping Price and McCoy freshThat horrible run defense can be contributed to injuries at DT and piss poor LB play. If we stay in the 4-3, I good with McCoy, Price, Haynesworth(if he restructres) and getting a FA to fill the 4th DT spot. Ryan Broyles if available in the 5th would be an absolute steal IMO.Agreed. If Broyles didn't tear his ACL, he'd go in the 1st round. I don't see how he makes out of the 3rd. If he's there in the 5th and the Bucs don't draft him, Dominik should be fired on the spot.
Quote from: TBayXXXVII on January 18, 2012, 01:26:55 PMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 09:30:34 AMQuote from: wyla86 on January 18, 2012, 02:14:09 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 01:49:35 AMChange out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.Bucs had a Horrible run defense and Forston is a good player from miami that could help in the inside as a rotating DT keeping Price and McCoy freshThat horrible run defense can be contributed to injuries at DT and piss poor LB play. If we stay in the 4-3, I good with McCoy, Price, Haynesworth(if he restructres) and getting a FA to fill the 4th DT spot. Ryan Broyles if available in the 5th would be an absolute steal IMO.Agreed. If Broyles didn't tear his ACL, he'd go in the 1st round. I don't see how he makes out of the 3rd. If he's there in the 5th and the Bucs don't draft him, Dominik should be fired on the spot.Im a huge Broyles fan...but from everything I was seeing and hearing prior to his injury..he was being graded at best as a late 2nd rounder. He will probably be in the early stages of running by the time OU does their pro day in March...so he may not even get a few legit running times in before the draft...he probably at 100% would have ran in the high 4.4s low 4.5s..but his true strengths are route running and catching. He really could be a Wes Welker-type receiver. I'm thinking that he could probably go mid 3rd to mid 4th....if we are able to get a 4th somehow in a trade for the #5 overall....Broyles would be worth the pick in the 4th..much less the 5th.
Quote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 03:09:15 PMQuote from: TBayXXXVII on January 18, 2012, 01:26:55 PMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 09:30:34 AMQuote from: wyla86 on January 18, 2012, 02:14:09 AMQuote from: chace1986 on January 18, 2012, 01:49:35 AMChange out Forston with Ryan Broyles, WR in the 5th and I would be absolutely thrilled with that draft.Bucs had a Horrible run defense and Forston is a good player from miami that could help in the inside as a rotating DT keeping Price and McCoy freshThat horrible run defense can be contributed to injuries at DT and piss poor LB play. If we stay in the 4-3, I good with McCoy, Price, Haynesworth(if he restructres) and getting a FA to fill the 4th DT spot. Ryan Broyles if available in the 5th would be an absolute steal IMO.Agreed. If Broyles didn't tear his ACL, he'd go in the 1st round. I don't see how he makes out of the 3rd. If he's there in the 5th and the Bucs don't draft him, Dominik should be fired on the spot.Im a huge Broyles fan...but from everything I was seeing and hearing prior to his injury..he was being graded at best as a late 2nd rounder. He will probably be in the early stages of running by the time OU does their pro day in March...so he may not even get a few legit running times in before the draft...he probably at 100% would have ran in the high 4.4s low 4.5s..but his true strengths are route running and catching. He really could be a Wes Welker-type receiver. I'm thinking that he could probably go mid 3rd to mid 4th....if we are able to get a 4th somehow in a trade for the #5 overall....Broyles would be worth the pick in the 4th..much less the 5th.Yeah, you could be right on that. I don't really look too far into the future on how these kids rate, I just remember looking on CBS (in their prospect ratings), around this time last year and they had him as the 20th best player for this years draft. Things change and all, but that was the only time I can remember looking for this years group until just recently.