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#1485 : April 06, 2012, 10:32:45 AM

Talib's situation trumps most other considerations. It's Claiborne if he's there at 5

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#1486 : April 06, 2012, 10:38:12 AM

hopefully a mod like 3SK will visit and clean up your mess
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#1487 : April 06, 2012, 10:40:41 AM

I think either we swap with the Vikes or the Browns move back...Vikes would gladly take Kalil or Claiborne at 5...But I think someone will jump up to Cleveland spot leaving Richardson for us.

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#1488 : April 06, 2012, 10:41:37 AM

Um hello Blount can catch out of the backfeild


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#1489 : April 06, 2012, 10:46:35 AM

Blount averaged nearly ten yards a catch last season.  Take away his longest reception (35 yards) and he averaged eight yards.  It's not that he can't catch out of the backfield; it's that they just don't throw it to him.

its not hard for olson, logan, morris, dominik and the glazers to see that stat.  so why didnt they do it more often?

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#1490 : April 06, 2012, 10:48:59 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.

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#1491 : April 06, 2012, 10:56:04 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.
However history shows RB's have the shortest careers of any position. If you're truly building a team for 2014 and beyond, you'd start with the positions that last the longest.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#1492 : April 06, 2012, 10:58:32 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.
However history shows RB's have the shortest careers of any position. If you're truly building a team for 2014 and beyond, you'd start with the positions that last the longest.

No one is building a team for 2020. The window is probably 2013 to 2016. Trent will be there.

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#1493 : April 06, 2012, 11:01:19 AM

So since you say that beasts can be created by this O-line, what if we put a back who is already a beast behind them, along with a change-of-pace highlight reel in Blount? What team would be able to stop us from running right down the field on every possession? This also keeps our awful defense off the field for a lot longer, and allows us to use basically every other pick on the defensive side of the ball. I'm absolutely not opposed to Claiborne, but if TR is there, can you resist the opportunity to make this offense potentially elite?

That's exactly why it is a luxury, and a RB isn't going to make this offense elite. It's sounds good just talking about it and all but people are getting carried away with nobody is going to stop us with Richardson and Nicks stuff which is nonsense, points come out of the passing game and with our pass D other teams are going to easily be able to take the running game out by putting up some early points just like last year.

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#1494 : April 06, 2012, 11:13:36 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.
However history shows RB's have the shortest careers of any position. If you're truly building a team for 2014 and beyond, you'd start with the positions that last the longest.

No one is building a team for 2020. The window is probably 2013 to 2016. Trent will be there.
In order for the Bucs to win the Super Bowl right now, they need a new RB, TE, RT, WLB, SLB, SS, FS, CB1, and CB2. It's going to be hard to fix all those problems before 2014, and by then Vincent Jackson will be 32, Penn and Joseph 32, and who knows what kind of physical condition McCoy, Price, and Bowers will be in.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#1495 : April 06, 2012, 11:21:54 AM

Agree on RB, WLB, SS and CB2. 

Trueblood is serviceable. Can't have all all-pros on the OL. K2 will be fine for a year or two and we don't know what Stocker can do yet. Watson can be a decent SAM imo. Talib is still here as CB1. TJax can be more than solid. Wright is a good CB. Top priorities imo are RB, WLB, SS and a 3rd CB.

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#1496 : April 06, 2012, 11:27:39 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.
However history shows RB's have the shortest careers of any position. If you're truly building a team for 2014 and beyond, you'd start with the positions that last the longest.

No one is building a team for 2020. The window is probably 2013 to 2016. Trent will be there.
In order for the Bucs to win the Super Bowl right now, they need a new RB, TE, RT, WLB, SLB, SS, FS, CB1, and CB2. It's going to be hard to fix all those problems before 2014, and by then Vincent Jackson will be 32, Penn and Joseph 32, and who knows what kind of physical condition McCoy, Price, and Bowers will be in.
  you're pissing in Dom's koolaid.  He says his work is done.  The core is ready to contend.


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#1497 : April 06, 2012, 11:30:20 AM

Agree on RB, WLB, SS and CB2. 

Trueblood is serviceable. Can't have all all-pros on the OL. K2 will be fine for a year or two and we don't know what Stocker can do yet. Watson can be a decent SAM imo. Talib is still here as CB1. TJax can be more than solid. Wright is a good CB. Top priorities imo are RB, WLB, SS and a 3rd CB.
So we're winning the Super Bowl this season, then? Again, you're counting on a lot of players in 2012 who in all likelihood won't be here in 2013 and even more likely won't be here in 2014. This is reality. Trueblood is only under contract one more season and isn't getting any better. Winslow's knees aren't getting any more healthy. Stocker hasn't even shown to be better than Alex Smith. Watson is still a project and in all likelihood won't even start over the Cheetah this season. Talib is only under contract one more year and isn't getting smarter. Jackson still can't tackle. Wright has been bad more than he's been good. And what if all our injury-prone defensive linemen continue to get injured? This team is going to need a lot more players before they're real contenders.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#1498 : April 06, 2012, 11:31:34 AM

Agree on RB, WLB, SS and CB2. 

Trueblood is serviceable. Can't have all all-pros on the OL. K2 will be fine for a year or two and we don't know what Stocker can do yet. Watson can be a decent SAM imo. Talib is still here as CB1. TJax can be more than solid. Wright is a good CB. Top priorities imo are RB, WLB, SS and a 3rd CB.

3rd CB? More like #1 CB, this is Talib's last year with the Bucs if he even plays at all and Wright is a slot guy, the 1st priority is definately CB.

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#1499 : April 06, 2012, 11:32:42 AM

You can't fix everything in one offseason. TR (along with VJax and Nick) will solidify the offense for years to come and give the Bucs an identity. Then Dom can focus on the D. If TR is teh #2 talent on your draft board, you take him imo.
However history shows RB's have the shortest careers of any position. If you're truly building a team for 2014 and beyond, you'd start with the positions that last the longest.

No one is building a team for 2020. The window is probably 2013 to 2016. Trent will be there.
In order for the Bucs to win the Super Bowl right now, they need a new RB, TE, RT, WLB, SLB, SS, FS, CB1, and CB2. It's going to be hard to fix all those problems before 2014, and by then Vincent Jackson will be 32, Penn and Joseph 32, and who knows what kind of physical condition McCoy, Price, and Bowers will be in.


You sir have pinpointed the flaw in Dom's "Build through the drat" philosophy. If you do not regularly supplement with free agents you will forever have holes in your team. The windows are too narrow for players.

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