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« : February 21, 2012, 08:48:40 AM »

would you still want him at #5?  yea or nea.

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« #1 : February 21, 2012, 09:02:14 AM »

I'm starting not to like Blackmon at 5 just like don't like Richardson there. I think Jarius Wright or Joe Adams gives us what we need and can be had in the third round.

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« #2 : February 21, 2012, 09:02:25 AM »

Depends on the amount of head-wind....j/k

I don't think anyone will be amazed that he doesn't run 4.3 but 4.65 is slow enough to raise an eyebrow...personally I would go back to the tape and let that decide. It's not like he's from West Sassafrass School of Technology so we know he's played against quality every week. Factor in what others say about him....Weeden says he's not just physically gifted but also very smart...others say he's better than Dez Bryant....I think I'd trust those things moreso than a 40 time.



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« #3 : February 21, 2012, 09:03:44 AM »

Question we might be asking around here after the combine is do you take Wright at 5..

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« #4 : February 21, 2012, 09:08:43 AM »

When noobs create threads that already have a direct correlation to a different thread..IE: "The draft Justin Blackmon thread"...then everyone **CENSORED**es and moans....S&B deserves the same treatment...this needs to be merged with the other Blackmon thread.

Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #5 : February 21, 2012, 09:21:20 AM »

Why take the discussion we were having in the Justin Blackmon thread and start an entirely new thread to continue that discussion?


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« #6 : February 21, 2012, 09:59:38 AM »

Why take the discussion we were having in the Justin Blackmon thread and start an entirely new thread to continue that discussion?
Because then he can brag about how everyone responds to his thread to his parents..


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« #7 : February 21, 2012, 03:14:48 PM »

Depends on what he runs at his pro day


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« #8 : February 21, 2012, 03:17:32 PM »

I don't think WR is a big need this offseason


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« #9 : February 21, 2012, 03:20:19 PM »

forget the name then.  is any wr worth taking at #5 if they can't show a minimum amount of straight line speed.  Fitz is a 1 in a 1000 example.  it would be a huge gamble betting a guy much smaller than him can do the same.  do I think he'll run that?  No.  I expect something in the low to mid 4.5s.  Just wanted to see if more people agreed with me or JDub concerning whether or not his 40  mattered.

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« #10 : February 21, 2012, 03:33:59 PM »

forget the name then.  is any wr worth taking at #5 if they can't show a minimum amount of straight line speed.  Fitz is a 1 in a 1000 example.  it would be a huge gamble betting a guy much smaller than him can do the same.  do I think he'll run that?  No.  I expect something in the low to mid 4.5s.  Just wanted to see if more people agreed with me or JDub concerning whether or not his 40  mattered.

I think I am somewhere in the middle...40 time does have a bit of relevance..but there are so many other factors that determine a WRs ability to get separation from a defender other than straight line speed.
« : February 21, 2012, 03:38:22 PM chace1986 »

Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #11 : February 21, 2012, 04:03:24 PM »

forget the name then.  is any wr worth taking at #5 if they can't show a minimum amount of straight line speed.  Fitz is a 1 in a 1000 example.  it would be a huge gamble betting a guy much smaller than him can do the same.  do I think he'll run that?  No.  I expect something in the low to mid 4.5s.  Just wanted to see if more people agreed with me or JDub concerning whether or not his 40  mattered.
Depends on how that WR plays and does it translate to the next level. For example, Peter Warrick came out as a "burner" in college and ran a 4.55 range. He is 5'11 195 pounds and he lacked other skills he could make up for in top end speed. Not a polished route runner and he wasn't an elite leaper. In Blackmon's case, if he were to run a 4.5, he is still a top 5 prospect in my eyes b/c he can make up for it with elite ball skills and his crazy vertical. There aren't many corners that are jumping 40+ inches in the air.


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« #12 : February 21, 2012, 04:36:41 PM »

No. Doesn't mean he still can't be good , but you don't risk a top 5 pick on a slow WR in most cases . Especially a slow WR who is only 6'1.


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« #13 : February 21, 2012, 04:46:10 PM »

No. Doesn't mean he still can't be good , but you don't risk a top 5 pick on a slow WR in most cases . Especially a slow WR who is only 6'1.

Very well said, unless there is a Calvin Johnson kind of talent, investing a #5 on a WR isn't usually smart investment, especially when the prospect brings pretty a little more than what we already have in Mike Williams and Benn.

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« #14 : February 21, 2012, 06:07:15 PM »

The combine should only affect rounds 4-7.

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