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« #150 : April 02, 2012, 03:18:36 PM »

Back on topic.

If the holy ghost impregnated Mary then Jesus is not of the lineage of David and Solomon.

If Joseph impregnated Mary (which is contrary to the scriptures) then he his of the lineage of David and Solomon.

Based on deductive reasoning, he is not God anymore than Ghandi or MLK were Gods. According to scripture and the teachings of Jesus, You are all Gods with infinte potential.

Holy Spirit is God's active force, thus a part of God Jehova.

Your logic is completely flawed.

Proof is in the lineage. Look it up.

From Abraham to Jesus - Matt 1:1-16 (v 6 David & Solomon) then read v 17-18

Jesus to God - Luke 3:23-38

Both the natural ancestral & legal right has been established. Jesus is ruling as King, Mediator & Messiah.

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“This study of the text in detail leads us in this way to admit—1. That the genealogical register of Luke is that of Heli, the grandfather of Jesus; 2. That, this affiliation of Jesus by Heli being expressly opposed to His affiliation by Joseph, the document which he has preserved for us can be nothing else in his view than the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. But why does not Luke name Mary, and why pass immediately from Jesus to His grandfather? Ancient sentiment did not comport with the mention of the mother as the genealogical link. Among the Greeks a man was the son of his father, not of his mother; and among the Jews the adage was: ‘Genus matris non vocatur genus [“The descendant of the mother is not called (her) descendant”]’ (‘Baba bathra,’ 110, a).” - Frederic Louis Godet
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« #151 : April 02, 2012, 03:36:13 PM »

Back on topic.

If the holy ghost impregnated Mary then Jesus is not of the lineage of David and Solomon.

If Joseph impregnated Mary (which is contrary to the scriptures) then he his of the lineage of David and Solomon.

Based on deductive reasoning, he is not God anymore than Ghandi or MLK were Gods. According to scripture and the teachings of Jesus, You are all Gods with infinte potential.

Holy Spirit is God's active force, thus a part of God Jehova.

Your logic is completely flawed.

Proof is in the lineage. Look it up.

From Abraham to Jesus - Matt 1:1-16 (v 6 David & Solomon) then read v 17-18

Jesus to God - Luke 3:23-38

Both the natural ancestral & legal right has been established. Jesus is ruling as King, Mediator & Messiah.

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“This study of the text in detail leads us in this way to admit—1. That the genealogical register of Luke is that of Heli, the grandfather of Jesus; 2. That, this affiliation of Jesus by Heli being expressly opposed to His affiliation by Joseph, the document which he has preserved for us can be nothing else in his view than the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. But why does not Luke name Mary, and why pass immediately from Jesus to His grandfather? Ancient sentiment did not comport with the mention of the mother as the genealogical link. Among the Greeks a man was the son of his father, not of his mother; and among the Jews the adage was: ‘Genus matris non vocatur genus [“The descendant of the mother is not called (her) descendant”]’ (‘Baba bathra,’ 110, a).” - Frederic Louis Godet
My logic is flawed?

If you said this...

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If the holy ghost impregnated Mary then Jesus is not of the lineage of David and Solomon.

If Joseph impregnated Mary (which is contrary to the scriptures) then he his of the lineage of David and Solomon.

Based on deductive reasoning, he is not God anymore than Ghandi or MLK were Gods. According to scripture and the teachings of Jesus, You are all Gods with infinte potential.

...then yes  :)

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« #152 : April 02, 2012, 03:57:57 PM »

Back on topic.

If the holy ghost impregnated Mary then Jesus is not of the lineage of David and Solomon.

If Joseph impregnated Mary (which is contrary to the scriptures) then he his of the lineage of David and Solomon.

Based on deductive reasoning, he is not God anymore than Ghandi or MLK were Gods. According to scripture and the teachings of Jesus, You are all Gods with infinte potential.

Holy Spirit is God's active force, thus a part of God Jehova.

Your logic is completely flawed.

Proof is in the lineage. Look it up.

From Abraham to Jesus - Matt 1:1-16 (v 6 David & Solomon) then read v 17-18

Jesus to God - Luke 3:23-38

Both the natural ancestral & legal right has been established. Jesus is ruling as King, Mediator & Messiah.

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“This study of the text in detail leads us in this way to admit—1. That the genealogical register of Luke is that of Heli, the grandfather of Jesus; 2. That, this affiliation of Jesus by Heli being expressly opposed to His affiliation by Joseph, the document which he has preserved for us can be nothing else in his view than the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. But why does not Luke name Mary, and why pass immediately from Jesus to His grandfather? Ancient sentiment did not comport with the mention of the mother as the genealogical link. Among the Greeks a man was the son of his father, not of his mother; and among the Jews the adage was: ‘Genus matris non vocatur genus [“The descendant of the mother is not called (her) descendant”]’ (‘Baba bathra,’ 110, a).” - Frederic Louis Godet
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« #153 : April 02, 2012, 03:58:50 PM »

again mntmn ...well said.

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« #154 : April 03, 2012, 12:42:44 PM »

You all ought to read "Jesus Christ is Not God" By Victor Paul Wierwille. The author goes thru all of this clearly. Again Jesus Christ is not God, He is the son of God. Big difference between God and the son of God.

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« #155 : April 04, 2012, 03:57:54 PM »

Back on topic.

If the holy ghost impregnated Mary then Jesus is not of the lineage of David and Solomon.

If Joseph impregnated Mary (which is contrary to the scriptures) then he his of the lineage of David and Solomon.

Based on deductive reasoning, he is not God anymore than Ghandi or MLK were Gods. According to scripture and the teachings of Jesus, You are all Gods with infinte potential.

Holy Spirit is God's active force, thus a part of God Jehova.

Your logic is completely flawed.

Proof is in the lineage. Look it up.

From Abraham to Jesus - Matt 1:1-16 (v 6 David & Solomon) then read v 17-18

Jesus to God - Luke 3:23-38

Both the natural ancestral & legal right has been established. Jesus is ruling as King, Mediator & Messiah.

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“This study of the text in detail leads us in this way to admit—1. That the genealogical register of Luke is that of Heli, the grandfather of Jesus; 2. That, this affiliation of Jesus by Heli being expressly opposed to His affiliation by Joseph, the document which he has preserved for us can be nothing else in his view than the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. But why does not Luke name Mary, and why pass immediately from Jesus to His grandfather? Ancient sentiment did not comport with the mention of the mother as the genealogical link. Among the Greeks a man was the son of his father, not of his mother; and among the Jews the adage was: ‘Genus matris non vocatur genus [“The descendant of the mother is not called (her) descendant”]’ (‘Baba bathra,’ 110, a).” - Frederic Louis Godet
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Say's the guy who believes Mary got pregnant by a gust of wind.

Too bad designer jeans weren't invented then

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« #156 : April 04, 2012, 04:14:22 PM »


It's common in early Greek mythology for pregnancy to be caused by the wind. Societies at that time were primarily matriarchal. Men had no parental rights (or obligations). Lineage was through ultimogeniture instead of primogeniture.

Later, the snake would become associated with sexuality and pregnancy.

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« #157 : April 04, 2012, 05:30:45 PM »


It's common in early Greek mythology for pregnancy to be caused by the wind. Societies at that time were primarily matriarchal. Men had no parental rights (or obligations). Lineage was through ultimogeniture instead of primogeniture.

Later, the snake would become associated with sexuality and pregnancy.
Interesting. definately want to look into it next time I'm in an airport

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« #158 : April 04, 2012, 05:36:54 PM »


Thought they didn't allow Hare Krishnas in airports any more?

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« #159 : April 06, 2012, 05:14:52 PM »

More of this?

People, please, I'm a christian too, don't mind OneTruth....i don't take him very seriously.

This space for rent....*sigh* I trusted you coach.

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« #160 : April 09, 2012, 07:55:50 AM »

Beatlles when you decide to let your faith grow beyond its infancy...you will grasp the meaning of all this. Untill then if you want to join in with the atheists and the agnostics and the universalists and the spiritualists and the satanists...its a free country pal.
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