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« #60 : April 08, 2012, 01:27:08 PM »

Behind $100,000s in child support.

Deadbeat Dad.

Yeah, don't feel sorry for him whatsoever.

I have been fighting for equal parental rights for fathers for 6 years and it is this attitude that drives me crazy. I take it you have never had to pay child support nor had any dealing with family court. If you had children that the government took from you and gave to someone else and then forced you to pay a monthly bill in an amount that the government decides under threat of devastating punishment, including but not limited to incarceration, for failure to pay (regardless of the reason such as unemployment or illness), I think you would change your mind on the whole "deadbeat dad" bull**CENSORED**. I would suggest looking into the whole billion dollar divorce industry before you blindly repeat derogatory propaganda statements.

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« #61 : April 08, 2012, 01:33:32 PM »

I guess where you come from it's okay to impregnate 4 women and leave them to fend for themselves.

In my book - classic sum of the earth whether he played for the Bucs or not.

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« #62 : April 08, 2012, 01:55:23 PM »

I guess where you come from it's okay to impregnate 4 women and leave them to fend for themselves.

In my book - classic sum of the earth whether he played for the Bucs or not.


You are making a HUGE assumption baased on zero facts and info.

No where in the articles does it say Sapp hasn't paid ANY child support. Just that he owes it. And in Bankruptcy, "owe" means ANY future obligation EVEN if it is not due yet.

What if he has been paying $8,000/month (out of the $15k the courts ordered) in child support and half the alimony ($20 odd thousand/month). Is he still "classic sum of the earth"?

The article said he owes over $100k in child support and if he was paying $8k/mo he would be over $100k behind in just 14 months. But in your twisted world, anyone not paying at least $15K/month ($7,500 per child) is "scum of the Earth"?


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« #63 : April 08, 2012, 01:59:39 PM »

I guess where you come from it's okay to impregnate 4 women and leave them to fend for themselves.

In my book - classic sum of the earth whether he played for the Bucs or not.


You are making a HUGE assumption baased on zero facts and info.

No where in the articles does it say Sapp hasn't paid ANY child support. Just that he owes it. And in Bankruptcy, "owe" means ANY future obligation EVEN if it is not due yet.

What if he has been paying $8,000/month (out of the $15k the courts ordered) in child support and half the alimony ($20 odd thousand/month). Is he still "classic sum of the earth"?

The article said he owes over $100k in child support and if he was paying $8k/mo he would be over $100k behind in just 14 months. But in your twisted world, anyone not paying at least $15K/month ($7,500 per child) is "scum of the Earth"?

I know you know you are wasting typing energy on him JG..  ;D

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« #64 : April 12, 2012, 06:20:53 PM »

Shelton: Warren Sapp speaks out on bankruptcy filing

By Gary Shelton, Times Sports Columnist
: Apr 12, 2012
   

Warren speaks.

The voice is the same, a low growl that can turn blunt and pointed over the length of a conversation, punctuated by short bursts of laughter. It is the same sound you heard in the good times, and now that bad times have hit, it has not changed.

Warren Sapp still sounds like Warren Sapp.

Despite his financial problems, despite the headlines about bankruptcy filing, despite all the jokes about 240 pairs of sneakers and a large painting of a naked woman in his bedroom, Sapp still sounded positive Thursday as he attempted to explain his troubles in detail for the first time on a phone call to the Tampa Bay Times.

"Do you think I wanted to declare bankruptcy?'' Sapp said. "Do you think if there was any other way possible I would have done it? It was either this or go to jail. Those were my choices.''

In the days since Sapp, 39, filed for bankruptcy with $6.7 million worth of debt, he has once again become a polarizing figure in Tampa Bay. Sapp was a great player as the Bucs turned from one of the worst franchises in the NFL to one of the best, but a lot of people seem to remember a lot of stories about how rude he could be in public.

I wrote a column about Sapp on Thursday, and the email still hasn't eased. To be honest, there doesn't appear to be a great deal of sympathy for Sapp. Imagine the same financial troubles falling on another Buc, such as Derrick Brooks or Mike Alstott or Warrick Dunn, and more fans might try to feel their pain. Not so much with Sapp.

The trouble started with the wrong construction deal at the wrong time. By the time it went bad, most of Sapp's money was gone.

The idea was to build low-income housing in Fort Pierce in 2005. Sapp says the original agreement was that the houses would not be built until a buyer had been approved for a mortgage, but one of his partners approved the construction of three houses so there would be something to market. But 2005 was not a good time for real estate, and the houses went unsold.

"It didn't go well,'' Sapp said. "At the end of the day, we owed them a million dollars, and the two numb---- put their heads in the sand. They went after me.''

Because of the debt, Sapp's earnings from the NFL Network — 100 percent of them, he said — were garnished for 11 months. That meant his bills went unpaid, causing the debt spiral that led to his Chapter 7 filing.

"You tell me what to do,'' Sapp said. "Do you keep working without a check? If you don't pay your child support, you go to jail. This wasn't something I wanted to do. This was something I had to do.''

Sapp said his financial situation has left him a little embarrassed but not distraught. After all, he estimates he made a gross of "about $60 million'' during his playing days.

"When you live like I do,'' Sapp said, "you know where you are and what you have to do. I'm not at war with me. I promise you this. I will never go to jail.''

After Sapp's legal documents were released, there has been a lot of laughter and a lot of comments about his list of assets. Skeptics have wondered about his missing Super Bowl ring.

"Is it so unbelievable that I misplaced my ring?'' Sapp said. "I wore it for 365 days, and we had a 7-9 season and I went to Oakland and I took it off. You never saw me with it anywhere. The only time I brought it out was when the NFL Network wanted us to wear it.

"We were at the Super Bowl, and I thought I handed it to someone, and he said I didn't. I checked my luggage to see if it was in a side pocket. I checked my suit to see if I put it somewhere. What was I going to do? Yell and scream because I lost a ring? That ring didn't make me a champion. Derrick Brooks, Simeon Rice, Ronde Barber, Brian Kelly, Dwight Smith. That crew made me a champion.

"In my life, has anyone called me a liar? Why would I start now? Someone told me something that John Adams supposedly said. Facts are stubborn. I like facts.''

Sapp said he finds it funny that most reports of his assets mention the nude woman in the painting of his bedroom wall.

"I'm not an interior decorator,'' Sapp said. "Some designer put that on the all, and I liked it. It's in my bedroom. By the time a woman gets there, she might be naked, too.''

He laughs, and then the conversation turns to the lion-skin rug at the foot of his bed.

"It isn't as if I shot him,'' Sapp said, laughing. "I didn't go and get him. I just like the rug. I have a zebra skin rug, too, but I shot that one.''

As for the 240 pairs of Nike Airs?

"I didn't know I had that many,'' Sapp said. "I've said for years, if you wear size 15, I have some shoes to donate. I've been with Team Nike for a long time. I didn't pay for most of those.''

For the record, now that his NFL career is over, Sapp says he has moved for a reduction of child support payments. He says he "doesn't know'' if he will be retained by the NFL Network as an analyst. As far as Bucs' memorabilia, he says his ex-wife Jamiko has the jersey he wore in the Super Bowl and from one of his Pro Bowls.

"They can fight her for them,'' he said, "but I don't think she'll give them up. They can have it all, man. I put myself in this position.''

Despite the debt, despite the criticism, Sapp says he is positive.

"This is just another situation I have to get myself out of,'' Sapp said. "I grew up without cable and without air conditioning. Things aren't that bad yet.

"This isn't as tough a situation as when I came out of college, and there were reports of seven positive drug tests, and I was a 21-year-old man. I was coming to the worst franchise in pro football, and Sam Wyche was running a five-ring circus, and my teammates were calling me 'super-rook' because they didn't want me here. You stick a diamond in a pile of s---- and it's still a diamond.

"If there is air in my lungs, I'll find a way.''

Do you believe him? Do you doubt him? Are you disappointed in him? Amused by his situation?

Throughout Sapp's career, it has always been the same.

Even now, broke but unbroken, he seems to do the same.

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« #65 : April 13, 2012, 03:32:29 AM »

Remember Sapp's old Slave Master comments?    The guy never was too bright.    We all should have known he'd lose all his money.


http://football.about.com/cs/news/a/aa101403.htm


Sapp: "Like I said before, it's a slave system. Make no mistake about it, slave master say you can't do it, don't do it. They'll make an example out of you."


Then in an article from James Alder, former About.com Guide...


"Sapp’s tirade is nothing short of asinine and insulting.

Not only were Sapp’s words way off base, but they were a slap in the face to his own race. How can a man that has been made a multi-millionaire by playing a game call the institution that made him rich a “slave system” and compare what he is going through with the circumstances a real slave lived under? And better yet… how does he get away with making such a racially-charged statement when others are losing their jobs for much less?

Can you imagine the uproar if NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue were to refer to a black football player as “boy”? Or how about if he just came right out and used the “N” word? You can bet Tagliabue would be run out of town quicker than Rush Limbaugh could say Oxycontin. But when Sapp calls Tags a slave master, it’s just a case of Warren being Warren? I don’t buy it!

Am I the only one that sees a double standard here?"

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« #66 : October 03, 2012, 09:26:22 PM »

Interested in deadbeat dad Warren Sapp's mansion? The former Buccaneer star's 15,000-square-foot Tuscan mansion in Windemere is up for auction on Nov. 1.



There's no word on whether the lion skin rug is included, but you can step up and own a piece of Warren Sapp history if you have the bucks.

The bankruptcy-court-ordered auction of the former Tampa Bay Buccaneer star's 15,000-square-foot Tuscan mansion in Windemere is set for 11 a.m. Nov. 1.

Even without the lion rug, the owner gets a whole lot of house in the exclusive Reserve at Lake Butler Sound, an Orlando suburb that is "home to high-profile celebrities, professional athletes and business executives," said Fisher Auction Co., which is handling the auction.

For starters, there are four large bedrooms, five full bathrooms and three half-baths.

The house, built in 2005 for nearly $7 million, includes 10,100 square feet of living space, a wine cellar, a movie theater, a resort-style swimming pool with waterslide and lazy river, 500 feet of combined frontage and a dock on Lake Butler.

In April, Sapp filed for Chapter 7 protection due to business losses, with about $6.5 million in assets and debt exceeding $6.7 million. Assets listed included the aforementioned lion's rug, more than 200 pairs of Air Jordan shoes, a large painting of a nude woman, and a watch worth $2,400.

A federal judge in South Florida discharged Sapp's bankruptcy case last week. According to reports, the NFL Network analyst has been able to clear a good deal of debt, and the sale of the house figures to be chunk of the arrangement.

According to the Orange County property appraiser's website, the house has an assessed value of about $3.4 million.

An ad in Sunday's New York Times offered the first sniff of the house auction for "Warren Carlos Sapp," ordered by the U.S. federal bankruptcy court, Southern District of Florida.

The auction will be at the Orlando Airport Marriott, 7499 Augusta National Drive, Orlando. Bidders must be prequalified.

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« #67 : October 03, 2012, 10:56:04 PM »

Interested in deadbeat dad Warren Sapp's mansion? The former Buccaneer star's 15,000-square-foot Tuscan mansion in Windemere is up for auction on Nov. 1.



/entertainment/2012/oct/03/2/warren-sapps-orlando-mansion-up-for-auction-nov-1-ar-520985/?referer=None&shorturl=http://tbo.ly/SDjses
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Nice crib, might have to put in a bid.   Wouldn't want to live in the Orlando area though, with Dwight headed to the Lakers.


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« #68 : October 03, 2012, 11:19:04 PM »

Damn. Built for $7 mil....now worth $3.4 mil.

Damn.

Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.

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« #69 : October 03, 2012, 11:52:19 PM »

Hey morgan. Did your pops walk out on your sorry arse or something?

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« #70 : October 04, 2012, 12:10:59 AM »

She is rather bitter...... and as soon as i saw this on the news, i KNEW she'd post it here.

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« #71 : October 04, 2012, 03:37:54 AM »

Interested in deadbeat dad Warren Sapp's mansion? The former Buccaneer star's 15,000-square-foot Tuscan mansion in Windemere is up for auction on Nov. 1.



That's an awesome place.     The guy has been living large.


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« #72 : October 04, 2012, 07:36:41 AM »

Trampoline in the back yard. Nice touch.

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